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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @swrightlast
      last edited by

      @swrightlast Have you tested each individual motor as I suggested? If so, have you tracked it down to either the X (alpha) motor or the Y (beta) motor or both? If one motor works fine and one does not, then you could try swapping the motors. If the problem moves with the motor, then it;s the motor. If the problem persists, then it could be the driver.

      Out of curiosity, what were the changes you made which led to you having to fit a new connector?

      Ian
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      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • swrightlastundefined
        swrightlast
        last edited by

        @deckingman , I'll check that again. Answer to your other question: I was enclosing motor wires within the 2020 extrusion, and needed to clip the wires at the board connector to enable feeding the wiring.

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        • swrightlastundefined
          swrightlast
          last edited by

          I checked motor movement.....I get a short grunt of ratcheting noise, and NO movement on either axis.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            If you disconnect the belts from the pulleys do the motors spin individually using this sent from the console:

            G91
            G1 S2 X10 F3000
            G1 S2 Y10 F3000
            

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
              last edited by

              @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

              .I get a short grunt of ratcheting noise, and NO movement on either axis.

              Do you still get any errors in the console?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
                last edited by

                @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                needed to clip the wires at the board connector to enable feeding the wiring.

                When you recrimped, did you get the wire phases in the same order?

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                • swrightlastundefined
                  swrightlast
                  last edited by swrightlast

                  @Phaedrux said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                  Duex2 expansion board
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                  G1 S2 X10 F3000
                  G1 S2 Y10 F3000

                  Again, just a short grunt of ratcheting noise, Motor shaft appears to be alternating rapidly between forward and backward movement.

                  Also got motor phase error thing.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Well the behaviour of the motor and the error message would seem to indicate there is a mismatched phase in the motor wiring.

                    Do you have the make and model of the motor to get the phase information?

                    You can also use this technique to find the phase pairs.
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

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                    • swrightlastundefined
                      swrightlast @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux , standard folgertech nema 17, 1.8 degree. 5kg/cm, 1.5a. checking phase now......stay tuned.

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                      • swrightlastundefined
                        swrightlast @swrightlast
                        last edited by swrightlast

                        @swrightlast I could not get any resistance readings at all! Probably didn't do it right.

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                        • swrightlastundefined
                          swrightlast
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                          @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                          Error: M569: Driver 0 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
                          Error: M569: Driver 1 does not support mode 'stealthChop'
                          Error: M569: Driver 2 does not support mode 'stealthChop'

                          Does this give any clue to the problem?

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Can you post your config.g?

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                            • swrightlastundefined
                              swrightlast @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux
                              ; General preferences
                              G21 ;Set units in mm from this point
                              G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                              M83 ; Network
                              M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name

                                                                       ; ...but relative extruder moves
                              

                              M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                              M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                              M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                              M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                              ; Select CoreXY mode

                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                              M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                              M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                              M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16:16 I1 ; Set miscrostepping x16 with x256 interpolation
                              M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E412 ; Set steps per mm
                              M566 X400 Y400 Z300 E3000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mmmin)
                              M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E1500 ; Set accelerations (mms^2)
                              M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1500 E6000 ; Set maximum speeds (mmmin)
                              M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1100 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                              M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low endstops

                              ; Pressure advance ; Set pressure advance
                              M572 D0 S0.15

                              ; Z-Probe
                              M574 Z1 S0
                              M558 P9 H3 F500 T2000 B1 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                              M557 X40:290 Y40:290 S50 B1 ; Define mesh grid
                              G31 X-10 Y60 Z0.9 P200

                              ; Heaters

                              M305 P0 T100000 B4171 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                              M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

                              M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                              ; Fans
                              M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                              M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1 ; Define tool 0
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets

                              ; Custom settings are not configured
                              M501

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @swrightlast
                                last edited by

                                @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                                ; Drives
                                M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards

                                The D3 is telling it to use stealthchop mode. Which is only supported by the TMC 2224 drives on the Duet Maestro, and not the TMC 2660 drives on the duet wifi. So that explains the stealthchop error messages. So just remove the D parameter entirely.

                                @swrightlast said in STEPPER AND HOMING PROBLEMS:

                                M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name
                                ; ...but relative extruder moves

                                M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                It looks like there is either a rogue character in your config.g or a semi colon out of place. Can you upload the actual file rather than copy and paste?

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                                • swrightlastundefined
                                  swrightlast @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux [co; General preferences
                                  G21 ;Set units in mm from this point
                                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83 ; Network
                                  M550 PCoreXY ; Set machine name

                                                                           ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  

                                  M667 S1 M552 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP

                                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
                                  ; Select CoreXY mode

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S0 D3 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                  M569 P1 S0 D3 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P2 S0 D3 ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                  M569 P3 S1 D3 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16:16 I1 ; Set miscrostepping x16 with x256 interpolation
                                  M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E412 ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X400 Y400 Z300 E3000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mmmin)
                                  M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E1500 ; Set accelerations (mms^2)
                                  M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1500 E6000 ; Set maximum speeds (mmmin)
                                  M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1100 E1000 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                  M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Set active low endstops

                                  ; Pressure advance ; Set pressure advance
                                  M572 D0 S0.15

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M574 Z1 S0
                                  M558 P9 H3 F500 T2000 B1 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                  M557 X40:290 Y40:290 S50 B1 ; Define mesh grid
                                  G31 X-10 Y60 Z0.9 P200

                                  ; Heaters

                                  M305 P0 T100000 B4171 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                  M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

                                  M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                  ; Fans
                                  M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                  M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1 ; Define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets

                                  ; Custom settings are not configured
                                  M501
                                  nfig.g](/assets/uploads/files/1573005646030-config.g) config.g

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    1573005937174-config.g

                                    I made some corrections. Try that one.

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                                    • swrightlastundefined
                                      swrightlast @swrightlast
                                      last edited by

                                      @swrightlast , I must be getting tired. How do I upload my config.g to this discussion?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        nope you got it uploaded. I cleaned up some formatting and structure. There were two commands on the same line and I removed the D values from drive setup that was trying to use stealthchop.

                                        You can either download the file I uploaded and rename it to config.g and upload it to the duet, or you can copy and paste from below.

                                        ; General preferences
                                        G21						   ;Set units in mm from this point
                                        G90             ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 PCoreXY                                       ; Set machine name
                                        M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode
                                        M552  S1    ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                                        M586 P0 S1                                         ; Enable HTTP
                                        M586 P1 S0                                         ; Disable FTP
                                        M586 P2 S0                                         ; Disable Telnet
                                        
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0 S0	                                   ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P1 S0            	                   ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P2 S0                                     ; Drive 2 goes backwards
                                        M569 P3 S1                                     ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16:16 I1	   	   ; Set miscrostepping x16 with x256 interpolation
                                        M92 X80 Y80 Z400 E412                              ; Set steps per mm
                                        M566 X400 Y400 Z300 E3000                        ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mmmin)
                                        M201 X500 Y500 Z500 E1500			   ; Set accelerations (mms^2)
                                        M203 X12000 Y12000 Z1500 E6000                     ; Set maximum speeds (mmmin)
                                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1100 E1000 I30                   ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30                                            ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                               ; Set axis minima
                                        M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0                             ; Set axis maxima
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 Y1 S0                                      ; Set active low endstops
                                        
                                        ; Pressure advance				   ; Set pressure advance
                                        M572 D0 S0.15
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M574 Z1 S0
                                        M558 P9 H3 F500 T2000 B1                      	   ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                        M557 X40:290 Y40:290 S50 B1			   ; Define mesh grid
                                        G31 X-10 Y60 Z0.9 P200
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        
                                        M305 P0 T100000 B4171 C0 R4700                    ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120                                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        
                                        M305 P1 B4725 C7.060000e-8                ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                                        M143 H1 S280                                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M106 P1 S0 I0 F500 H-1                             ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                          ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1                                 ; Define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        
                                        ; Custom settings are not configured
                                        M501
                                        

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                                        • swrightlastundefined
                                          swrightlast @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux I tried it.....no change.

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                                          • swrightlastundefined
                                            swrightlast @swrightlast
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                                            @swrightlast it keeps showing the motor phase error for both x,y.

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