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    • jrjones88undefined
      jrjones88
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      Thanks!
      I had found the max volumetric flowrate for my hot end to be ~7.5mm^3/sec (long bowden) but hadn't calculated the max speeds for that before.

      Would make my max speed 44.6 mm/s so I'll try dropping the speeds a bit.

      I always thought I was printing slow because other Rostock users self reported speeds of up to 100mm/sec.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        I often wonder when I see people claim such high print speeds. Are they printing at low layer heights and extrusion widths? Do they even have acceleration and jerk values that allow them to hit those speeds in any meaningful way?

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        • Phaedruxundefined
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          @jrjones88 said in Infill slight underextrusion:

          I had found the max volumetric flowrate for my hot end to be ~7.5mm^3/sec

          PrusaSlicer allows you to set a volumetric speed limit on the speeds tab. This would cap your movement speeds to automatically stay within the limit.

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          • jens55undefined
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            Um ... maybe not exactly helpful but I would so love to slather spaghetti sauce over that 'pasta cake' and dig in ... it looks delicious !

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            • jrjones88undefined
              jrjones88 @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux said in Infill slight underextrusion:

              @jrjones88 said in Infill slight underextrusion:

              I had found the max volumetric flowrate for my hot end to be ~7.5mm^3/sec

              PrusaSlicer allows you to set a volumetric speed limit on the speeds tab. This would cap your movement speeds to automatically stay within the limit.

              I had forgotten I had set that a while ago in Prusaslicer...

              Printed it out again with the max speeds set to 45mm/sec, and I guess the volumetric speed limit was in play for the previous prints as I can't really see too much of a difference.
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              • Phaedruxundefined
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                Do you notice the same thing on other infill patterns that don't have unsupported overhangs? Like grid, or cubic?

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                • jrjones88undefined
                  jrjones88
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                  @Phaedrux said in Infill slight underextrusion:

                  Do you notice the same thing on other infill patterns that don't have unsupported overhangs? Like grid, or cubic?

                  I tried grid, and at first glance it is better, but where the extruder starts the grid pattern there is still underextrustion, but it is much harder to see. And hard to photograph:
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                  But I think the issue is probably with my retraction settings. I did go through the 'wizard' in KISSlicer, but it still needs tweaking. Do you happen to have a link to a good guide for that? I never spotted the guide for the volumetric extrusion but it's much easier to follow than others I found.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
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                    @jrjones88 said in Infill slight underextrusion:

                    I think the issue is probably with my retraction settings.

                    Yes the little fingers climbing up would seem to indicate some retraction issues.

                    I don't have a guide per se for tuning retraction, but if you have a PanelDue these macros can make live tuning firmware retraction quite easy.

                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6181/tuning-macros-menus-accel-jerk-retraction-pressure-advance

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                    • jrjones88undefined
                      jrjones88
                      last edited by jrjones88

                      Well I think I found the main culprit, after going through and tweaking all my accels and retraction settings, at least in PrusaSlicer.
                      I had "Only retract when crossing perimeters" turned on, which caused a bunch of my oozing.

                      But getting my acceleration and travel moves better tuned also proved benificial.
                      I found I could bump up all the accelerations by quite a bit, as well as the travel move speed which improved stringing as well.

                      Still have slight gaps inbetween the gyroid layers, but that could be because it's only 5% infill.
                      Thanks for your input Phaedrux.
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                      • Phaedruxundefined
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                        That's looking much better

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