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    • Rudy2Aundefined
      Rudy2A @dc42
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      @dc42 said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

      Are you now using G32 to level the two sides of the bed, with the two Z motors connected to separate drivers? If so, after running G32, do you then get a level height map if you run G29 S0 ?

      Yes absolutely, I use the two separate Z pilots ... G32 then G29 ...

      But the problem is that, even if I adjust my bed in any way after doing G32 and G29, the result remains the same! It is as if the correction of my bed keeps in mind the error of the departure! Difficult to explain ! But, I find myself after the correction with the same faults (in the same place as at the start) without any correction having been made and yet I see perfectly moving the Z differently.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @Rudy2A
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        @Rudy2A your mesh would benefit from more points. It's fairly sparse.

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        • Rudy2Aundefined
          Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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          @Phaedrux said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

          votre maillage bénéficierait de plus de points. C'est assez clairsemé.

          For the sake of understanding, I prefer to use the P of M557 than S
          M557 X11: 250 Y11: 252 P4
          What would be the P value to make it more meaningful?

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          • Rudy2Aundefined
            Rudy2A @Rudy2A
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            @Rudy2A said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

            votre maillage bénéficierait de plus de points. C'est assez clairsemé.

            Par souci de compréhension, je préfère utiliser le P de M557 que S
            M557 X11: 250 Y11: 252 P4
            Quelle serait la valeur P pour la rendre plus significative?

            My bed is 300X300

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Try double?

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              • Rudy2Aundefined
                Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                Essayez double?

                Here, I get this result from M557 P4 to P8 ...

                Capture d’écran 2020-01-05 à 00.52.12.png

                The worst part is that by looking for solutions to my problem on the forum, I found quite a few cases similar to mine, but each time, the cases were not resolved or were not commented on final solution, it's a shame!

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                • Rudy2Aundefined
                  Rudy2A @Rudy2A
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                  As I said a little higher ... No matter the result of my height map by making a G29S0! My first layer does not receive any correction, the impression always remains identical in all the tests (and yet the height maps are never identical) ... same defect in the same place, it is frankly annoying not to understand!

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                  • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                    DIY-O-Sphere
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                    How are the motors connected to the leadscrews? Can you please attach a picture?

                    (UTC+1)

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                    • Rudy2Aundefined
                      Rudy2A @DIY-O-Sphere
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                      @DIY-O-Sphere said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                      Comment les moteurs sont-ils connectés aux vis-mères? Pouvez-vous joindre une photo?

                      Like this...

                      IMG_0230.JPG

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        Do you see the Z axis turning while it's printing?

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                        • Rudy2Aundefined
                          Rudy2A @Phaedrux
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                          @Phaedrux said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                          Voyez-vous l'axe Z tourner pendant l'impression?

                          Yes absolutely, my CoreXY printer (it's my moving bed) has 2 Z axes. One Z on Za and the other on E1, I can see my Z axes turning indifferently during my print tests ...

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @Rudy2A
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                            @Rudy2A said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                            As I said a little higher ... No matter the result of my height map by making a G29S0! My first layer does not receive any correction, the impression always remains identical in all the tests (and yet the height maps are never identical) ... same defect in the same place, it is frankly annoying not to understand!

                            can you post a picture of the first layer?

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere @Rudy2A
                              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                              @Rudy2A
                              I hate those types of couplers, as they behave like a spring.
                              But I think that in your case, the lead screw is fixed in Z by the upper bearing.

                              d2982f35-76fa-4838-b1d2-2f03f8f1a946-grafik.png

                              (UTC+1)

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                              • Rudy2Aundefined
                                Rudy2A @Veti
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                                @Veti said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                                pouvez-vous publier une photo de la première couche?

                                here is... the quality of the photography is not great, but we can clearly see where my first layer is crushed, and where it is too high!

                                Whatever I do as a setting, it comes down to the same every time! it's like a model is in memory on the printer ...

                                Even if I level my bed using the adjustment screws with a print in progress, I manage to have a very appreciable result ... Only, when I launch a new print test (without restarting the printer) my settings are not taken into account and we start again on a leveling of the bed almost identical to the photograph above!

                                IMG_0232.jpg

                                IMG_0234.jpg

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti @Rudy2A
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                                  @Rudy2A
                                  post the picture of the mesh grid.
                                  while printing check with m122 that mesh grid is active.

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                                  • Rudy2Aundefined
                                    Rudy2A @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                                    poster l'image de la grille maillée.
                                    lors de l'impression, vérifiez avec m122 que la grille de maillage est active

                                    Here is...

                                    Capture d’écran 2020-01-05 à 12.28.39.png

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      for a glass surface, that looks absutly terrible. there might be a problem with your probe.

                                      please run this macro.
                                      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6962/m48-measure-z-probe-repeatability-and-print-to-serial-output

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                                      • Rudy2Aundefined
                                        Rudy2A @Rudy2A
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                                        @Rudy2A said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                                        lors de l'impression, vérifiez avec m122 que la grille de maillage est active

                                        05/01/2020 à 12:46:01 M122

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                                        • Rudy2Aundefined
                                          Rudy2A @Veti
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                                          @Veti said in ZA and ZB connections ?:

                                          for a glass surface, that looks absutly terrible. there might be a problem with your probe.
                                          please run this macro.

                                          M98 P"0:/macros/Répétabilité de la sonde Z"
                                          G32 bed probe heights: -0.144 -0.126 -0.146 -0.123 -0.118 -0.119 -0.119 -0.114 -0.114 -0.128, mean -0.125, deviation from mean 0.011

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            @Rudy2A, you said in an earlier post that you are using the IR sensor as Z probe. That would explain your results. You won't get good results from the IR sensor on that bed, because of the white print on the black background. If you put a sheet of matt black paper between the bed plate and the glass, then you may get acceptable results.

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