PanelDue no longer connecting on Duet3/io0 with 3.01-RC11

Nuramori

I'm guessing there was a drive strength change or something. I can't get to the source code right now but I can check tomorrow if @dc42 hasn't answered by then.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that something like that was controllable through software. Thanks for the help @gtj0 .

gtj0

@Nuramori said in PanelDue no longer connecting on Duet3/io0 with 3.01-RC11:

I'm guessing there was a drive strength change or something. I can't get to the source code right now but I can check tomorrow if @dc42 hasn't answered by then.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that something like that was controllable through software. Thanks for the help @gtj0 .

Yeah on most "microcontroller" platforms, including the ones on the Duets, Pis and other SBCs, many pins are general purpose and have their function (uart, GPIO, SPI, etc) and capabilities (input, output, both, drive strength, pull up/pull down, tristate, etc) controlled from software.

A Former User

couldn't spot any changes to low level functions, just some conditional logic around the higher level initilization.
https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/commit/6f912e9ca47930d7b91d504c0e9c8be31251284a#diff-52cb419324e9c23a2e2c5a269e0e70fcR3581

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dc42 committed to dc42/RepRapFirmware

Various changes for 3.01-RC11

Tool change files are now run even if axes have not been homed
PanelDue replies are now sent immediately instead of being saved for
retrieval by M408
Added aux raw mode
On Duet 3, IO_0 is not configured in serial mode until M575 P1 is
executed
GCodeException class now stores a small string to allow more meaningful
error messages

Nuramori

Could it be this?

setPullup(APIN_Serial0_RXD, true);

I didn’t see anywhere else where the pull-up resistor is used/set in the old code, could the setting the pull-up affect the signal enough that it “dies” enough in signal strength for two electrical connections to be too much for the paneldue circuitry?

A Former User

@Nuramori said in PanelDue no longer connecting on Duet3/io0 with 3.01-RC11:

setPullup(APIN_Serial0_RXD, true);

click the beginning of the line and choose "git blame" to see when it was changed. (if viewed on github, otherwise git cli works as well)

i'm guessing its part of the other repositories then

gtj0

@Nuramori said in PanelDue no longer connecting on Duet3/io0 with 3.01-RC11:

Could it be this?

setPullup(APIN_Serial0_RXD, true);

I didn’t see anywhere else where the pull-up resistor is used/set in the old code, could the setting the pull-up affect the signal enough that it “dies” enough in signal strength for two electrical connections to be too much for the paneldue circuitry?

Absolutely!
I just did a build without the pullup. See this helps...
http://dueui.org/download/Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin

gtj0

@bearer It was new in the last 2 commits.

A Former User

(for CoreNG, ofc, my bad)

Nuramori

@gtj0 I downloaded the file, pushed it to the printer, and performed a "M997 S0"

Result was :
Error: Operation failed (Reason: ArgumentNullException in SimpleCode: Value cannot be null. (Parameter 'input'))

A Former User

But without the pull up? Comment said it was removed pending a M575, so the fix would be to enable it upon finding a M575 P1 command?

gtj0

@Nuramori Eh? I just did it myself and it worked. Maybe try to download again?
@bearer Yeah I just removed it altogether to see if it helps. If it doesn't then the issue is elsewhere.

Nuramori

unfortunately, my hopes were higher. No change.

gtj0

@Nuramori Ah well. Don't happen to have an oscilloscope do you?

Nuramori

@gtj0 I in fact do! It also does fun things like I2C. Siglent DCS 1202X-E

gtj0

@Nuramori You could examine the level on that pin with and without the Arduino connected and see if it changes. You could also see if either the Arduino or the PanelDue is attempting to pull it up or down itself.

A Former User

Arduno won't affect the Duet's RX pin, he says that's not connected and works in any case?

(i.e. Io0.out would be the TX pin)

Nuramori

@gtj0 ok, I'll try that out. My herd of cats (family) are vying for my attention, so I'll poke at it in the morning. Thank you very much for the help!

Nuramori

@bearer correct. the only wire that's linking the arduino to the duet is through the io.out pin. removing the connection allows the paneldue to receive packets, but attached or not, the paneldue issues commands TO the duet correctly. It (the paneldue) just doesn't update with information such as temps, positions, etc. It WILL do that once the arduino wire is disconnected. The same setup worked prior to RC11.

A Former User

@Nuramori said in PanelDue no longer connecting on Duet3/io0 with 3.01-RC11:

but attached or not, the paneldue issues commands TO the duet correctly.

then while the RX pull up is relevant, its not the cause. (unless maybe to disable it on the arduino)

Nuramori

I thought I might throw this in here, not to conflate the issue with another, but it’s somewhat related (if only because it was affected by the same port).

The other week when there was an update that included an update to the paneldue firmware (iirc it was RC-8?), I could not get the paneldue to communicate with Bossa at all. It finally worked, and I could flash the new version 1.24 after I physically disconnected the paneldue from the io0 connector. While plugged into io0, whether the duet3 was powered up or not during the attempt, the paneldue could not be flashed.

I’m not sure it’s even related or a coincidence, but I thought I’d mention it.