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    • curlypaulundefined
      curlypaul
      last edited by curlypaul

      Getting somewhere now - this is making me feel like a noob all over again !

      So.. I can home x (lh tool to left)
      I can home y to mc front
      I can home u (rh tool to right)

      Then, if i try to move Y, it's like the motors don't go in the right directions ?

      I must be doing something wrong !?!?

      EDIT : Can still move X and U in there correct directions - just Y is doing the wrong thing

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @curlypaul
        last edited by

        @curlypaul Off topic I know but that's an awesome looking build! Maybe not the way that I would do things but none the less awesome. Did you make those aluminium parts or have them machined for you?

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @curlypaul
          last edited by

          @curlypaul Back on topic - might be best if you post your config.g and homing files.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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          • curlypaulundefined
            curlypaul
            last edited by curlypaul

            Thankyou - I'll take that from seeing your build 🙂

            All machined at work, it's meant to be a toolchanger at some point also - that was the original plan

            It's sister machine has been running since last november, but only as a single head, but as with everything, life and work get in the way 😞

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            • curlypaulundefined
              curlypaul
              last edited by

              Here we go, only using stall for homing at present for getting it going

              config.g

              G90                                             ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83                                             ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Dual Head"                               ; set printer name
              
              M669 K8                                         ; select CoreXYUV mode
              
              ; Network
              M552 S1                                         ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1                                      ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0                                      ; disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0                                      ; disable Telnet
              
              ; Drives
              M569 P0 S1	                                    ; X physical drive 0 goes forwards
              M569 P1 S1                                      ; Y physical drive 1 goes forwards
              M569 P2 S1                                     ; Z physical drive 2 goes forwards
              M569 P3 S0                                      ; U physical drive 3 goes forwards
              M569 P4 S1                                      ; V physical drive 4 goes forwards
              M569 P5 S1                                      ; E0 physical drive 0 goes forwards
              M569 P6 S1                                      ; E1 physical drive 1 goes forwards
              
              M584 X0 Y1 U3 V4 Z2 E5:6 P4                           	; set drive mapping
              M350 X16 Y16 U16 V16 Z16 E16:16 I1                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X160 Y160 U160 V160 Z2560 E420:420     				; set steps per mm
              M566 X1200 Y1200 U1200 V1200 Z12 E120:120						    ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X9000 Y9000 U9000 V9000 Z360 E1200:1200			; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X1000 Y1000 U1000 V1000 Z500 E250:250      		; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X1400 Y1400 U1400 V1400 Z1400 E1200:1200 I30       ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30                                         		; Set idle timeout
              
              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X-5 Y-5 U-5 V-5 Z0 S1                            ; set axis minima
              M208 X400 Y350 U400 V350 Z300 S0                          ; set axis maxima
              
              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 Y1 U1 V1 S3                                   ; set endstops controlled by motor stall detection
              M574 Z1 S2                                      ; set endstops controlled by probe
              
              ; Z-Probe
              M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1                             ; disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
              M558 P9 H5 F120 T9000                           ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                             ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X-35:215 Y-45:195 S20                      ; define mesh grid
              
              ; Heaters
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700                     ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
              M143 H0 S90                                     ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700                     ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
              M143 H1 S280                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
              M305 P2 T100000 B4138 R4700                     ; set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
              M143 H2 S280                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
              
              ; Fans
              M106 P0 S0 I0 F50 H-1                           ; set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M106 P1 S1 I0 F50 H1 T45                        ; set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
              M106 P2 S1 I0 F50 H2 T45 X125                     ; set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
              M106 P3 S1 I0 F50 H-1                           ; set fan 3 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
              
              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0                                    ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              M563 P1 D1 H2 F3 X3                              ; define tool 1
              G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
              G10 P1 R0 S0                                    ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              
              

              homeu.g

              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we make changes
              G4 P100			; wait 400ms
              M574 U1 V1 S3 		; set endstops to use motor stall
              
              M913 U50 V50		; drop motor currents to 50%
              M915 H200 U V S3 R0 F0 	; set X and Y to sensitivity 3, do nothing when stall, unfiltered
              
              G91
              G1 H2 Z5 F9000    ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 U705 F4000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 U-6 F5000    ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 U705 F3000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
              G1 H2 Z-5 F9000   ; lower Z again
              
              G92 U400
              
              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we reset the motor currents
              G4 P100			; wait 400ms
              M913 U100 V100 		; motor currents back to 100%
              
              M574 U1 S0 		; Define active low and unused microswitches
              
              G1G91U-5.F5000
              

              homex.g

              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we make changes
              G4 P100			; wait 400ms
              M574 X1 Y1 S3 		; set endstops to use motor stall
              
              M913 X50 Y50		; drop motor currents to 50%
              M915 H200 X Y S3 R0 F0 	; set X and Y to sensitivity 3, do nothing when stall, unfiltered
              
              G91
              G1 H2 Z5 F9000    ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 X-705 F4000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 X6 F5000    ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 X-705 F3000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
              G1 H2 Z-5 F9000   ; lower Z again
              
              G92 X0
              
              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we reset the motor currents
              G4 P100			; wait 400ms
              M913 X100 Y100 		; motor currents back to 100%
              
              M574 X1 S0 		; Define active low and unused microswitches
              
              G1G91X5.F5000
              
              G90  
              

              homey.g

              G91              ; relative positioning
              
              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we make changes
              M574 X1 Y1 S3 		; set endstops to use motor stall
              
              
              M913 X40 Y40		; drop motor currents to 25%
              M915 H200 X Y S3 R0 F0 	; set X and Y to sensitivity 3, do nothing when stall, unfiltered
              
              G1 H2 Z5 F9000    ; lift Z relative to current position
              
              G1 S1 Y-700 F4000        	; move all carriages up 700mm, stopping at the endstops
              G1 Y5
              G92 Y0
              
              G4 X2000
              
              G1 S1 Y-700 F4000        	; move all carriages up 700mm, stopping at the endstops
              G1 Y5
              G92 Y0
              
              G1 H2 Z-5 F9000   ; lower Z again
              
              
              G90 			; back to absolute positioning
              
              M400 			; make sure everything has stopped before we reset the motor currents
              G4 P100			; wait 400ms
              M913 X100 Y100 		; motor currents back to 100%
              
              M574 Y1 S0 		; Define active low and unused microswitches
              
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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @curlypaul
                last edited by

                @curlypaul I have an idea but I might be on the wrong track. I need to clarify a few things in my mind - bear with me.

                Looking at your rig, I'm assuming that you just have one gantry that moves towards the back and front and that on that gantry you have two independent heads that move left to right yes? If so, then and Y and V are common but X and U are separate yes?

                You are homing X to the left but U to the right yes?

                But you have all the end stops set to the low end (M574). So what I think you might need to do is change the U end stop to be at the high end (change M574 U1 to U2). But then you'll need to change the motor directions as well (I think - because you say that it currently homes correctly but we need to change the endstop from being low end to high end). Maybe David can confirm or otherwise.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • curlypaulundefined
                  curlypaul
                  last edited by

                  I noticed the U was U1 not U2 after I posted the code - changed to U2 still the same

                  Everything else you typed was correct

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @curlypaul
                    last edited by deckingman

                    @curlypaul You've got a couple of M574s in your home U as well as in config.g. Do they now all match?

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • curlypaulundefined
                      curlypaul @deckingman
                      last edited by

                      @deckingman Yes - Both U2

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @curlypaul
                        last edited by

                        @curlypaul I've just re-read you post - lack of caffeine on my part - it's Y that you are having problems with not U. So you can home Y fine but you can't move Y "normally". That's a bit puzzling. My printer is a bit different because I have two completely separate gantries (actually 3 because it's now CoreXYUVAB) but what I have to do is map the motors to individual axes for homing, then combine them for "normal" movement. So maybe what you need to do is, after homing Y combine the Y and V motors. So send M584 Y1:4. if that works, then change your config.g to be M584 X0 Y1:4 U3 V4 Z2 E5:6 (not sure about the "P" - maybe leave it as 4). That might work (no guarantees) ☺

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • curlypaulundefined
                          curlypaul @deckingman
                          last edited by

                          @deckingman - can't hurt to try ! - thank you for taking the time 👍

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                          • curlypaulundefined
                            curlypaul
                            last edited by curlypaul

                            Well, that made for some strange movements

                            So, I can home X, Y and then U - all fine then if I try to move Y it doesn't move correctly and the belts/motors make angry noises (Sorry - I spent ages thinking of a better description)
                            Yet X and U still move correctly

                            From a fresh power on situation, if I send M564 H0,same as homing, again x moves okay, y moves okay, u moves okay. Go back to y - angry noises again
                            If I move x, then u - all okay but then if I move Y - it doesn't like it

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman @curlypaul
                              last edited by deckingman

                              @curlypaul "Angry noises" is nicely descriptive. 🙂 It seems that the motors are fighting against each other - or maybe one or more is stationary.

                              I'm looking at your home Y file and trying to figure out what's different between a G1 Y move there and a G1 Y move outside of home Y. 2 things leap out at me (but I'm not sure how it helps).

                              Firstly, you seem to have a scattering of "G1 S1" moves in amongst the "G1 H2s". So you ought to correct them (edit - change them from S1 to H1).

                              Secondly H1 and H2 moves select individual motor mode. So I'm guessing that if you send G1 H2 Ynn it will work, but if you send G1 Ynn (without the "H") you'll get "angry noises". Can you check if that's the case?

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                              • curlypaulundefined
                                curlypaul @deckingman
                                last edited by

                                @deckingman - I didn't spot the S1 in HomeY, That's gone now - still the same

                                In the meantime, I thought I'd try swapping the carriages - so U is now RH / X LH still the same issue

                                It's really baffling me, all axis move the correct way and amount on their own, just whenever need to 'mix' axes (if that makes sense) Y goes wrong.

                                I unhid V and sent a M564 H0. U and V move correct ways and I can then move X try and move Y .... angry noises

                                I reset... I move X,U and Y, and X,Y and U try and move V - angry noises 😞

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                                • curlypaulundefined
                                  curlypaul
                                  last edited by

                                  Endeavoured to make a video of whats going on..

                                  https://youtu.be/z0dNBMlm_lQ

                                  This is with carriages swapped from original - as mentioned in previous post

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                                  • deckingmanundefined
                                    deckingman @curlypaul
                                    last edited by

                                    @curlypaul Sorry for the delay - had a power outage here. Did you try sending G1 H2 Ynn to see if that works, then G1 Ynn (without the H2)?

                                    Then maybe try G1 H2 Vnn. If V goes the opposite way, then that might explain why Y (which is Y and V) goes haywire.

                                    Ian
                                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                    • deckingmanundefined
                                      deckingman @curlypaul
                                      last edited by

                                      @curlypaul Also, after homing, try sending M584 P3 to see if that makes any difference.

                                      Ian
                                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      • deckingmanundefined
                                        deckingman @curlypaul
                                        last edited by

                                        @curlypaul Edit - to attempt to home V you'll need to use M584 P5 to make it visible.

                                        Ian
                                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                        • curlypaulundefined
                                          curlypaul @deckingman
                                          last edited by

                                          @deckingman - No worries - i Had to walk away from it for a bit anyway !

                                          So I tried the H2 and without - I just what can only be described a machine gun noise - mostly from the 'x' carriage

                                          After the M584 P5, the 'U' carriage just twitches

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                                          • curlypaulundefined
                                            curlypaul
                                            last edited by curlypaul

                                            Right - Think spotted something !?
                                            after homing x,y and u - it appears to me that the lower pair of 'U' axis motors aren't moving when I try to move Y

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