Anyone upgraded a CR-10S Pro or CR-10S Pro V2?



  • Hi All,

    anyone here who upgraded a CR-10S Pro or CR-10S Pro V2? I'm getting closer to figure out all the required settings but still have some questions regarding this particular model.

    Thanks, Martin



  • @MartinNYHC

    Upgraded from what to what? From Stock mainboard to duet?
    (Yes, I did it)

    Cheers, Chriss



  • Hey Chriss,

    perfect...perhaps you can shed some light for me 😉

    I'm currently upgrading my CR-10S Pro V2 with Mosquito Hotend with Bondtech BMG-M with an Duet 2 Ethernet. Did my first print today and it was no bad but the main issues I still have are:

    • Since I changed the board to a Duet 2 the Z motors are quite loud compared to before and to me it sounds not good. I already connected the second one to E1 and changed the config accordingly without any change. Also the temperature of the motors was quite high and so I decreased the current a little bit. Is that something you also observed?

    • Z offset: I did a calibration like shown in the manual. BLTouch is working fine bit it looks like the Z offset changes. After my first print I started a second one and the offset was a little bit higher (and too high) than before.

    That's currently the main issued but i doubt there will be more to come one i fixed these 😉

    Are you willing to share your config(s) so that I can compare it? Below is mine.

    Thanks in advance!

    bed.g

    M561 ; clear any bed transform
    G28 ; home
    G30 P0 X100 Y150 Z-99999 
    G29  ; probe the bed and enable compensation
    

    config-override.g

    M307 H0 A188.7 C590.1 D0.3 S1.00 V23.5 B0
    M307 H1 A291.6 C101.6 D6.0 S1.00 V24.0 B0
    ; Workplace coordinates
    G10 L2 P1 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P2 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P3 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P4 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P5 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P6 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P7 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P8 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    G10 L2 P9 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    

    config.g

    ; Network
    M552 P0.0.0.0 S1                                    ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
    M586 P0 S1                                          ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0                                          ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0                                          ; disable Telnet
    
    ; General preferences
    G21													; set units to mm
    G90                                                 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83                                                 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"CR-10S Pro V2"                               ; set printer name
    M918 P1 E4 F2000000                                 ; configure direct-connect display
    M106 P0 S0                                          ; turn off fan
    M106 P1 S0                                          ; turn off fan
    M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   ; enable support for PanelDue
    
    ; Drives
    M569 P0 S1                                          ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
    M569 P1 S0                                          ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
    M569 P2 S0                                          ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
    M569 P3 S0                                          ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
    M569 P4 S0                                          ; Drive 4 (Z2) goes forwards
    M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3                                  ; set drive mapping
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E32:16 I1                          ; configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E415.00:400.00            ; set steps per mm
    M566 P1 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z24.00 E900.00:24.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z180.00 E6000.00:180.00       ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00:100.00        ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X700 Y700 Z500 E400:500 I50                    ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M593 F31		
    M572 D0 S0.055		                                  ;set pressure advance
    M84 S30                                             ; Set idle timeout
    
    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                    ; set axis minima
    M208 X325 Y315 Z400 S0                              ; set axis maxima; additional x for purge bucket
    
    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
    M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
    M574 Z1 S2                                         	; Set endstops controlled by probe
    
    ; Z-Probe
    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1                                ; Disable heater on PWM channel for BLTouch
    M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F100 T6000 A10 R0.3 S0.005 B1           ; Set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
    M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"
    G31 P25 X0 Y0 Z-3.592        		                     ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    ;M557 P0 X4:270 Y10:300 S20								; Define mesh grid
    M557 P5 X4:240 Y10:290								; Define mesh grid
    
    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S150                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 
    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
    
    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                                ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 T100 H1
    
    ; Tools
    M563 P0 S"Mosquito" D0 H1 F-1                       ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                     ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R215 S0                                        ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    
    ; Custom settings
    G31 X25 Y15 Z0.25									; set Z offset
    M501                                                ; read saved settings
    T0
    
    

    homeall.g

    G91                     ; relative positioning
    G1 Z5 F6000 H2          ; lift Z relative to current position
    G1 H1 X-330 Y-305 F3000 ; move quickly to X or Y endstop and stop there (first pass)
    G1 H1 X-330             ; home X axis
    G1 H1 Y-305             ; home Y axis
    G1 X5 Y5 F6000          ; go back a few mm
    G1 H1 X-330 F360        ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
    G1 H1 Y-305             ; then move slowly to Y axis endstop
    G90                     ; absolute positioning
    G1 X100 Y150 F6000        ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
    G30                     ; home Z by probing the bed
    


  • @MartinNYHC said in Anyone upgraded a CR-10S Pro or CR-10S Pro V2?:

    perfect...perhaps you can shed some light for me 😉

    I will do my best....

    I'm currently upgrading my CR-10S Pro V2 with Mosquito Hotend with Bondtech BMG-M with an Duet 2 Ethernet. Did my first print today and it was no bad but the main issues I still have are:

    • Since I changed the board to a Duet 2 the Z motors are quite loud compared to before and to me it sounds not good. I already connected the second one to E1 and changed the config accordingly without any change. Also the temperature of the motors was quite high and so I decreased the current a little bit. Is that something you also observed?

    Reduce the current! My settings are:

    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    
    
    • Z offset: I did a calibration like shown in the manual. BLTouch is working fine bit it looks like the Z offset changes. After my first print I started a second one and the offset was a little bit higher (and too high) than before.

    Well, I migrated my CR10s Pro v2 away from the bltouch some days ago. That has various reasons, one was a broken pin. 😞 I had problems with a "variable" Z offsets a long time too. Here are is my z-offset drill:
    1: Make sure that the nozzle is tight
    2: Heat up the nozzle to the normal printing temperature
    3: retract the filament (to make sure nothing is dripping out)
    4: Check that the nozzle is tight

    I have my own routine to find the correct z-offset. That sounds a bit strange, but it works:
    1: Set the z offset to 0 (G31 Z0) and write it to the config.g
    2: Reload the config, home all, set the temp back
    3: Move down to Z0 (G1 Z0)
    4: Turn of the "0 protection" with "M564 S0"
    5: Trim the nozzle down via the webinterface.
    You will see the "correct" value than in the webui and this is the number I put in the config.g than.

    I reboot the printer afterwards and heat it up again, home all, drive it down to 0 and check the height with a with a paper.
    Tune the "G31" if needed and repeat this step.

    I know that this is ugly and slow, there are more than 100 better solutions but my works for me!
    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16714/z-offset-paper-alternative

    Are you willing to share your config(s) so that I can compare it? Below is mine.

    I'm, but the current config is a bit on the dark site of nice configs. Feel free to search for my username and something with config. I shared a older (and working) config some days (10?) here in the forum.

    Here is a snipit regarding the steppers, that my help you a bit

    M350 E16 I0                                    ; Chriss - without interpolation
    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1                            ; Chriss - configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X80.00 Y80.16 Z400.00 E431.06              ; Chriss - set steps per mm 2560     From Bondtech: E409.51   Original: E137.81 
    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00            ; Chriss - set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z800.00 E1200.00        ; Chriss - set maximum speeds (mm/min) Z180
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00            ; Chriss - set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30                                        ; Set idle timeout
    

    Yes, I marked the lines I changed with "Chriss" to remember myself where I made changes.

    I hope that something was helpfully for you.

    I asked many rookie questions in the last weeks. You my find some useful information in my threads.

    Cheers, Chriss



  • Thanks Chriss.

    I decreased acceleration and speed changes for z motors but unfortunately they still sound terrible. In addition to that they are doing a "punching" noise when starting to move the z axis.

    I've made two videos.

    "Punching" noise
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/99zsoqs2imak92k/IMG_0007.MOV?dl=0

    General noise when z motors are active (and then switched off)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4tgm5pk07aw2oel/IMG_0008.MOV?dl=0

    I have the impression that they are dying soon 😞

    Any ideas?



  • @MartinNYHC said in Anyone upgraded a CR-10S Pro or CR-10S Pro V2?:

    I know that "punch" noise too. I have that too, maybe a not as loud as yours, but the microphone and my speakers can fool me here. Honestly: I have no idea where that comes from. I hope that somebody else have a idea here. I'm interested to read a explanation too. I have only a guess out of the blue: That comes from the X rail when the motors start and the torque hits the nuts on the lead screw. Amplified my the body of the printer. But this is 99,9% wrong and only my very uneducated guess.
    An idea would be to disconnect the lead screw from the motor by unfitting the jointers. Just to find out where it comes from. I have at least 60h printing with that and all motors are still fine. 😉

    Regarding the general noise:
    Did you checked checked the wiring? There is a good documentation how to connect steppers to the duet. Just to eliminate one of the variables. One of my takeaways of the transition from the stock board to the duet is a louder printer. I do not fully understand the difference between the driver chips, but that may have a impact. Let me see if I can record a video tomorrow with turning motors. That helps maybe to spot a difference.

    One more thing: Belt tension have a impact, too. I do not think that you have changed it, but it is worth the time to check that.

    Cheers, Chriss



  • It looks my motors are going to hell. Replaced one of them today with an older one which was lying around and the grinding noise was gone. Also temperatures went down. Need to replace them.

    Beside of that I'm quite happy now. Did two prints today and both looked good. I'm approaching the finishing line 🙂


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