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    • Garyundefined
      Gary @Phaedrux
      last edited by Gary

      @Phaedrux I've taken molex off fan header connections and attached direct to 24v. All fans/wiring okay. My mistake about speed - it's just a quiet - ish fan.

      That's maybe something if m106 and the sliders have no effect?

      send M106 P1 H-1 and heatsink fan comes on. No change to WebGUI controls
      M106 P1 S0 fan stops (WebGUI speed sliders - no effect)
      M106 P1 S1 fan on (WebGUI speed sliders - no effect)
      M106 P0 S1 no change to part cooling fan - still off

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      • Garyundefined
        Gary @Phaedrux
        last edited by Gary

        @Phaedrux Tried the following:
        fan0 Molex into fan2 header
        config.g changes
        ;Fans
        ; M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Disable FAN0: Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M106 P2 S0 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

        ;Tools for p0
        ; M563 P0 D0 H1 F0
        M563 P0 D0 H1 F2

        It seems to work!

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          It sounds like the Fan0 mosfet got damaged when the fuse was blown.

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          • Garyundefined
            Gary @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @Phaedrux Yeah. Nothing physically obvious. What also confused me was the 2 Fans on the WebGUI. I didn't notice that one was Tool Fan and the other Fan 0, which are the same. I thought one was the heatsink fan, which thinking about it now wouldn't make sense as it's not speed controllable. Thanks for your help.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              You can post a close up high res well lit clear photo of the fan port area so we can see if there is any damage.

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              • Garyundefined
                Gary @Phaedrux
                last edited by Gary

                @Phaedrux Hope it's clear enough.
                ![0_1597559615949_20200816_072939.jpg](Uploading 100%)
                Getting:
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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Can you try putting the photo on dropbox or google drive or something like that?

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                  • Garyundefined
                    Gary @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux 20200816_072939.png

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Nothing really visible, but it may still have failed.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • A Former User?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by

                        if you have a multimeter putting "multimeter mosfet" into google will show you how to test the mosfet properly its a little involved so doesn't make sense to repeat what google can tell you

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                        • Garyundefined
                          Gary @A Former User
                          last edited by Gary

                          @bearer Thanks I will check as I have now visually blown P3. Also P1 stopped working. So all 3 now not working! Is there anywhere in the UK that I can send the board to get it fixed?

                          (I bought pre-wired connectors, but I didn't see that although the connectors were compatible at the hot end the polarity was reversed to the fan. I wouldn't have thought that switching the fan polarity would have blown anything - the fans would just spin the wrong way).

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @Gary
                            last edited by

                            @Gary said in Fan Problem - Blown Board?:

                            @bearer Thanks I will check as I have now visually blown P3. Also P1 stopped working. So all 3 now not working! Is there anywhere in the UK that I can send the board to get it fixed?

                            Send me a PM, I can replace the mosfets.

                            (I bought pre-wired connectors, but I didn't see that although compatible at the hot end the polarity was reversed to the fan. I wouldn't have thought that switching the fan polarity would have blown anything - the fans would just spin the wrong way).

                            Unfortunately, brushless DC fans don't work like that. A few types just don't work when connected the wrong way round, but most of them present a short-circuit.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • Garyundefined
                              Gary @dc42
                              last edited by Gary

                              @dc42 Thanks for the info about the polarity. That now makes sense! I bought some PMV20XNER MOSFETs, but the size of them is way beyond my capability.

                              I tried to PM you, but I get then message "This user has restricted their chat messages. They must follow you before you can chat with them"

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @Gary
                                last edited by

                                Try now.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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