Here's the newbie again...
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Good morning, I've bought a Paneldue 7i for my Duet WiFi because the PC is a little far from the printer so for me is a must to have a display to make some controls, lunch the prints and so on. As i read you can use the display SD card as an alternative to the board SD card to store and lunch the prints, am I right?
Thanks
Andrea -
Yes but you need to run a cable between the sd_conn in the screen and the sd-conn on the duet wifi.
I believe the cable also has to be fairly short ~30cm.Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is
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@the_dragonlord
yes, you need to use the 10 pin cable supplied with the paneldue.
also you need to enable paneldue in die config.gM575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
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@jay_s_uk said in Here's the newbie again...:
Yes but you need to run a cable between the sd_conn in the screen and the sd-conn on the duet wifi.
I believe the cable also has to be fairly short ~30cm.The ribbon cable provided with the display is 100cm long and the maximum lenght is 300cm i think
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@Veti said in Here's the newbie again...:
@the_dragonlord
yes, you need to use the 10 pin cable supplied with the paneldue.
also you need to enable paneldue in die config.gM575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
Yes thanks! But the SD in the board has to remain to contain RRF, right? Last question: my board will be enclosed so it would be a little difficult to access its SD card to update the fw or something like that, would it be a bad idea to use a Micro SD extender in the board? I've read that it absolutely hasn't to be used with the display...
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@the_dragonlord no need. the firmware can be upgraded using the web interface.
I've never had to remove an sd card from a machine yet! (I have 5 RRF based machines) -
@the_dragonlord said in Here's the newbie again...:
@jay_s_uk said in Here's the newbie again...:
Yes but you need to run a cable between the sd_conn in the screen and the sd-conn on the duet wifi.
I believe the cable also has to be fairly short ~30cm.The ribbon cable provided with the display is 100cm long and the maximum lenght is 300cm i think
Thats the 4 wire cable.
I wasn't far off, the sd card cable is limited to a maximum length of 40cm (400mm)
Option 1: Ribbon cable
Available on PanelDue V2.0 and V3.0 only
Compatible with Duet 2 WiFi, Ethernet, Maestro
Supports use of PanelDue SD card slot
Connects to CONN_SD on Duet 2
Limit cable length to 400mm for reliability
For PanelDue V2.0, both the ribbon cable AND 4-wire cable need to be connected to enable use of SD card slot.
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_LCD_control_panel#Section_Option_1_Ribbon_cable -
With the web interface and slicer plugins to allow upload of gcode directly it's pretty uncommon to need to physically touch an SD card at all.
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@Phaedrux said in Here's the newbie again...:
With the web interface and slicer plugins to allow upload of gcode directly it's pretty uncommon to need to physically touch an SD card at all.
uuh, great! I'll use Ideamaker as slicer, do you know if there's a such plugin for it?
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@the_dragonlord said in Here's the newbie again...:
would it be a bad idea to use a Micro SD extender in the board?
Yes, it would be a bad idea! See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_LCD_control_panel#Section_Warning
Warning
Caution! Do not use an SD extender cable from the SD socket on the Panel Due. Some types of SD card extender cable have been found to damage the SD card socket. Damage to the SD card socket from using an extender cable is not covered by the warranty.Ian
TronXY X5S with Duet 3 MB6HC and Roto toolboard : Cartesian bed-slinger with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi and 1LC : RRP Fisher Delta v1 with Duet 2 Maestro : Polargraph with Duet 2 WiFi
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@droftarts said in Here's the newbie again...:
@the_dragonlord said in Here's the newbie again...:
would it be a bad idea to use a Micro SD extender in the board?
Yes, it would be a bad idea! See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_an_LCD_control_panel#Section_Warning
Warning
Caution! Do not use an SD extender cable from the SD socket on the Panel Due. Some types of SD card extender cable have been found to damage the SD card socket. Damage to the SD card socket from using an extender cable is not covered by the warranty.Ian
yes, I've already read this but it refers to the LCD panel not to the board itself, infact I've asked if this could be a problem for the board (Duet 2 WiFi) as well...I see it is so I'll not usa en extension! But there's a way (via Putty or something else) to have the remot "access" to the SD to make changes, upload updatings etc. or is it necessary to take the SD off the board and connetc it to a PC eache time?
Sorry for the stupid questions but for me this is a whole new world and I'm finding a huge amount of infos and my old and poor brain is starting to go in overflow.... -
you could use telnet and use this https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/10880/rfm-reprapfirmware-filemanager-duetbackup-successor
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@jay_s_uk said in Here's the newbie again...:
you could use telnet and use this https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/10880/rfm-reprapfirmware-filemanager-duetbackup-successor
excellent! thanks
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@the_dragonlord the advice not to use SD extensions is the same for the main board, just can’t find it in the docs on my phone at the moment!
Ian
TronXY X5S with Duet 3 MB6HC and Roto toolboard : Cartesian bed-slinger with Duet 3 Mini 5+ WiFi and 1LC : RRP Fisher Delta v1 with Duet 2 Maestro : Polargraph with Duet 2 WiFi
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@droftarts excellent, thanks
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@jay_s_uk said in Here's the newbie again...:
Yes but you need to run a cable between the sd_conn in the screen and the sd-conn on the duet wifi.
I believe the cable also has to be fairly short ~30cm.I bought a "name"(the opposite of no-name) 10wire shielded twisted/helixed cable and managed to reach a distance of ca. 2-3meters, but I had no time to try it with an unshielded untwisted cable, because it was a job and I only wanted to give it 1 try to see if it works or not. Got the connectors in the local electronics-shop and soldered/crimped them myself. SD-card from PanelDue with RRF2.x on a duet-ethernet-1.4 is working fine over that length
Guess the guys here could boost their sales of the PanelDue if the 10-wire-DOES-IT-ALL-cable that comes with it, would not be a unshielded flat one (which might be the reason for the 30cm recommendation,) but put inside the box a good something between 50cm-1meter shielded (maybe helixed) (FR) cable and throw out the 4-wire cable that would be useless then.
Given the price I pay here in germany for the 7i/5i-PanelDue, I personally wouldn´t really mind if it is 5 euros more for a good cable, because if I want a cheap display I use either the DWC running on a for-free-once-electronics-garbage-computer or get a cheapo 1%&$/ interface
Cheers!
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@Phaedrux said in Here's the newbie again...:
With the web interface and slicer plugins to allow upload of gcode directly it's pretty uncommon to need to physically touch an SD card at all.
Here within our small company because of the rising frequency of attacks to the server or router, server and router seem to be now programmed in a way that the network is cut a few times a day/week in those attempts (it re-starts/-connects automatically when "it thinks" (whatever the admins programmed) the attempt stopped) from a few minutes to half-hours.
The SD-card is the one and only fall-back solution that works always
(in some network-sensitive fields like public-security/defence or similar maybe network isn´t even allowed)I personally would really like to see sd-support for paneldue getting stronger in RRF3 and duet3!
(Of course I can always rip out the sd-card on the duet-board or attach a usb-cable to it, but that is a bit unelegant if you happen to have a PanelDue with an sd-card-socket. If support for sd-card on PanelDue is decreasing then I ask myself why to put it and pay for it in the first place?)
