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    • taconiteundefined
      taconite
      last edited by

      Hey guys,

      I want to power a Arduino Nano from the 5V Rail of a Duet 2 Wifi (v1.4) and controll LEDs with it (I don't have heater or fan outputs to spare).

      I will use one remaining fan output to control the state of the LEDs

      Is there enought power to drive the Arduino Nano and approx 30 LEDs of a (300 LED/5m WS2812b LED strip)?

      Best Regards
      Adrian

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      • peter247undefined
        peter247 @taconite
        last edited by peter247

        @taconite
        I would say at a guess , NO , the best way is use a buck converter off the main psu.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          see this on how to do the wiring

          https://www.blvprojects.com/blv-mgn-cube-3d-printer?pgid=k8hkwn62-f7fe97b7-2106-47ec-9a07-47b5b8c9a191

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @taconite
            last edited by dc42

            @taconite said in Powering Arduino Nano and LEDs from 5V rail:

            Hey guys,

            I want to power a Arduino Nano from the 5V Rail of a Duet 2 Wifi (v1.4) and controll LEDs with it (I don't have heater or fan outputs to spare).

            I will use one remaining fan output to control the state of the LEDs

            Is there enought power to drive the Arduino Nano and approx 30 LEDs of a (300 LED/5m WS2812b LED strip)?

            Best Regards
            Adrian

            Arduino Nano: yes (although Arduino Pro Micro is a better one to use if it will take inputs directly from the Duet)
            LED strip: 30 LEDs * up to 60mA per LED = up to 1.8A. That's more than we recommend drawing from the Duet's 5V supply; so no.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • taconiteundefined
              taconite
              last edited by

              Thank you for your replies!

              Why using a buck converter when I could just bi-pass the buck on the Nano. My concern is more about the current draw from the Duet.

              As my fans are running on 24V I will use a optocoupler to convert it to 5V

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              • taconiteundefined
                taconite
                last edited by

                Thank you @dc42

                What is the recommended max current draw from the 5V supply?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @taconite
                  last edited by

                  @taconite said in Powering Arduino Nano and LEDs from 5V rail:

                  Thank you @dc42

                  What is the recommended max current draw from the 5V supply?

                  2A total, less 200mA for the Duet and any current drawn by LCDs, endstops and Z probes.

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                  • taconiteundefined
                    taconite
                    last edited by

                    So I guess I will do it like that:

                    LED_Controller.jpg

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                    • peter247undefined
                      peter247 @taconite
                      last edited by

                      @taconite

                      Why the optocoupler ?
                      I can't see why you need one , if it is to switch the buck converter on you can find some buck converter which have a enabled pin.

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                      • taconiteundefined
                        taconite
                        last edited by

                        @peter247 With the PWM output of the Fan I want to control the color of the LED. e.G. 10% dutycylce = green. My Fan Voltage is 24V but the Arduino can only take 5V

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                        • peter247undefined
                          peter247 @taconite
                          last edited by peter247

                          @taconite

                          So if I have got this right you are going to power your arduino and looks like spi controlled leds from a fan with pwm ?.

                          your diagram makes not sense to me !!!!

                          Are you use spi controlled leds like dotstar ?

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                          • taconiteundefined
                            taconite
                            last edited by taconite

                            So I kind of made it work with this scematic

                            c56d7618-5dbd-4c4a-a203-f9ebe4b6d166-grafik.png

                            Simulation show good results:

                            404ae155-54fe-4d96-a790-ea30322391d2-grafik.png

                            The Problem with that is, even if i just put on the Fan_PWM at 10% (S0.1) I get already 2.5V. Does anyone has an explanation of that? Because of that I am limited to less colors ("just 6").

                            This is the PCB I put together with an optocoupler, an DC/DC converter and an Arduino Nano.

                            20201024_171337asdf.jpg

                            Custom ANET A8
                            Custom Delta: D-PATCH (Delta Printer with Automatic Tool CHanging) https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16082/d-patch?_=1596131234754

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