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    gringo
    last edited by 13 Nov 2020, 18:37

    Hello,
    after I rebuilt my IDEX printer, I wanted to do the software configuration today.
    As described in the documentation, I moved the nozzle onto the print bed and set G92 Z0. After measuring the Z offset (0.8404mm) several times, I entered it in the G31 Command of config.g.
    When I start a print with Tool 0, the nozzle is far too high above the print bed.
    I do not understand that.

    Anybody of yours offering an idea?

    Thanks
    gringo

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      Veti
      last edited by 13 Nov 2020, 19:11

      always post your config.g

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 13 Nov 2020, 23:00

        Can you post your config.g?
        Can you post your homeall.g?
        Can you send M122 and post the results?
        Can you send M98 P"config.g" and post the results?

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          fcwilt
          last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 00:21

          After updating config.g did you reboot the printer or run config.g via M98?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            gringo
            last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 11:19

            Config.g :
            ; General preferences
            G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"Der Duale" ; set printer name

            ;-------------------------------- Network ----------------------------------------------------------
            M552 S1 ; enable network
            M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

            ;--------------------------------- Display PanelDue 7i ----------------------------------------------

            M575 P1 S1 B57600

            ;----------------------------------------- Drives ----------------------------------------------------
            M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards x
            M569 P1 S0 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards y
            M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards u
            M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards z links
            M569 P9 S0 ; physical drive 9 goes forwards z hinten rechts
            M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards z rechts
            M569 P5 S1 ; physical drive 5 goes backwards extruder links
            M569 P6 S1 ; physical drive 6 goes forwards extruder rechts

            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:9:4 U3 E5:6 ; set drive mapping
            M671 X-132:148:428 Y-25:385:-55 S5 ; Positionen der Trapezgewindespindel für das Bed Leveling
            M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
            M92 X80.00 U80.0 Y80.00 Z2133.33 E415.00:415.00 ; set steps per mm
            M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E600.00:600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X12000.00 U12000.00 Y12000.00 Z600.00 E36000.00:36000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X1000.00 U1000.00 Y1000.00 Z250.00 E800.00:800.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1000 U1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S120 ; Set idle timeout

            ;------------------------------------------------- Axis Limits -------------------------------------------------
            ;M208 X-88 U0 Y-40 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
            ;M208 X278 U368 Y295 Z280 S0 ; set axis maxima
            M208 X-88: 290 U0: 380 Y-25: 325 Z0: 270

            ;------------------------------------------------- Endstops -------------------------------------------------------
            M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
            M574 U2 S1 P"e0stop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on U via pin e0stop
            M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
            ;M574 Z2:4 S1 P"zstop + e1stop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on 2 Z Motoren via pin zstop + e1stop
            M574 Z0 S2 ; Z-Home mit Sonde

            ;-------------------------------------------------- Z-Probe --------------------------------------------------------------
            M558 P5 C"zprobe.in" H5 F150 T10000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
            G31 P500 X0 Y25 Z0.8404
            M557 X0:280 Y20:290 S20 ; define mesh grid

            ;-------------------------------------------------- Heaters -----------------------------------------------------------------
            M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
            M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
            ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
            M307 H0 A214.2 C887.4 D1.5 S1.00 V24.0 B0 ; PID Tuning
            M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
            M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            M308 S1 P"duex.e2temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
            M950 H1 C"duex.e2heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
            ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
            M307 H1 A606.0 C166.7 D3.6 S1.00 V24.1 B0 ; PID Tuning
            M308 S2 P"duex.e3temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
            M950 H2 C"duex.e3heat" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
            ;M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
            M307 H2 A581.7 C168.9 D3.2 S1.00 V24.1 B0 ; PID Tuning

            ;---------------------------------------------------- Fans -------------------------------------------------------------------
            M950 F0 C"duex.fan4" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin duex.fan3 and set its frequency
            M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F1 C"duex.fan3" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin duex.fan4 and set its frequency
            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
            M950 F2 C"duex.fan5" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin duex.fan5 and set its frequency
            M106 P2 S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F3 C"duex.fan6" Q500 ; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan6 and set its frequency
            M106 P3 S1 H2 T45 ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

            ;----------------------------------------------------- Tools ---------------------------------------------------------------
            M563 P0 S"Tool 1 links" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            M563 P1 S"Tool 2 rechts" D1 H2 X3 F2 ; define tool 1
            G10 P1 U0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
            G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

            ; Custom settings are not defined

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              Veti @gringo
              last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 11:43

              @gringo said in Problem with G31 Trigger Z-height:

              the nozzle is far too high above the print bed.

              what do you mean far to high?
              normally after measuring the offset i adjust the first layer by babystepping and then add the babystepping to the offset to get the final result.

              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M308 S1 P"duex.e2temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M308 S2 P"duex.e3temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp

              B4138 is the default and wrong for your thermistors. find the correct beta value in your thermistor documentation.

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                gringo
                last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 11:53

                When i Start a Printjob the Nozzle is 0,84mm above the Bed.
                That is excactly the G31 Z Trigger Distance.
                For testing i changed the G31 Z in Z-0,8404 and started a Printjob. The Nozzle was 1,6mm above the Bed.
                But why?

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                  Veti @gringo
                  last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 12:11

                  @gringo said in Problem with G31 Trigger Z-height:

                  Z-0,8404

                  because this defines the trigger height below the nozzle. so if you want the bed to be closer you have to add, not subtract.

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                    gringo
                    last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 12:26

                    Yes, this was a Test. To see what happened.

                    But why do I have to enter the double distance in the G31 Command?

                    Thanks for the Thermistor tip. I have installed Semitec 104GT2.

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                      Veti @gringo
                      last edited by Veti 14 Nov 2020, 12:36

                      @gringo said in Problem with G31 Trigger Z-height:

                      Thanks for the Thermistor tip. I have installed Semitec 104GT2.

                      thats B4725 C7.06e-8

                      But why do I have to enter the double distance in the G31 Command?

                      that not required.
                      maybe your bed is warping while beeing heated.

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                        gringo
                        last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 12:49

                        I determined the Z-trigger at the same temperature bed 80 ° C and not cold

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 16:05

                          @gringo said in Problem with G31 Trigger Z-height:

                          But why do I have to enter the double distance in the G31 Command?

                          We can only guess since you haven't shown us the rest of your gcode.

                          @Phaedrux said in Problem with G31 Trigger Z-height:

                          Can you post your homeall.g?
                          Can you send M122 and post the results?
                          Can you send M98 P"config.g" and post the results?

                          Additionally show us your slicer start gcode and bed.g if you use G32 anywhere.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            gringo
                            last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 19:08

                            Now it works, i have performed the steps again.

                            Thanks for your help

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