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    • Kwad3dundefined
      Kwad3d @Phaedrux
      last edited by Kwad3d

      @Phaedrux Today im getting zero movement on homing x. The bed drops then X is just set to 0 while the nozzle is in the center of the bed. I can manually move left and right after the failed homing move. Here is my code for home X at the moment. anything wrong with it? I repeated testing with M913 increments up to 100% I would occasionally get it to home but fails %90 of the time. How do I get it to grind the x axis into the home location? where I want to be is obviously somewhere between there and where Im at now.

      M400
      M913 X80 Y80 ; drop motor current to 80%
      M400
      G91; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z10 F12000 ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
      G90 ; absolute positioning
      M400
      M913 X100 Y100 ; return current to 100%
      M400

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        I still haven't seen your m915 command. Can you post your config.g file?

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        • Kwad3dundefined
          Kwad3d @Phaedrux
          last edited by Kwad3d

          @Phaedrux

          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M550 P"SK GO" ; set printer name
          M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

          ; Network
          M551 P"SK GO" ; set password
          M552 S1 ; enable network
          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

          ; Drives
          M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
          M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
          M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
          M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X10 Y36 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
          M208 X310 Y336 Z320 S0 ; set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
          M574 Y1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y

          ; Z-Probe
          M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P500 X-26 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X36:290 Y46:290 S48 ; define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S90 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          ; Fans
          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Custom settings are not defined

          ; Miscellaneous
          M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            May want to increase your max speed and decrease your acceleration.

            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            

            Try

            M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            

            It sounds like it's detecting a stall immediately, possibly due to the high acceleration.

            Doing this calculation for minimum stall speed would help as well so we know how fast it needs to be going to stall, but not so fast that it stalls prematurely.

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing#Section_Minimum_recommended_speed_for_stall_detection

            Hmin = full_steps_per_rev * rated_current * actual_current/(sqrt(2) * pi * rated_holding_torque)

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            • Kwad3dundefined
              Kwad3d @Phaedrux
              last edited by Kwad3d

              @Phaedrux Im confused by the equation.

              Hmin = full_steps_per_rev * rated_current * actual_current/(sqrt(2) * pi * rated_holding_torque)

              What is sqrt? and this is in algebraic format correct. So I would calculate full steps x rated current x actual current (A) and calculate sqrt x2 then x pi x rated holding (B). then divide a with b right?

              I have never had any luck with stall guard in general. Is there a way to turn it off but have senseless homing like on a prusa? Since this is on a coreXY that I will want to print at speeds above 100mm/s It could become a problem could it not?

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
                last edited by

                @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                Is there a way to turn it off but have senseless homing like on a prusa?

                Yes, that's exactly what you're doing now. You don't have to use both. You can use either or.

                It would help me to know what your motor model is. Do you know the rated current? If it's detecting a stall already at M913 80% perhaps your M906 current in config.g is set too low.

                If you tell me the rated current and whether they are 0.9 or 1.8 degree motors I can calculate the value using my spread sheet.

                @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                Since this is on a coreXY that I will want to print at speeds above 100mm/s It could become a problem could it not?

                No, no problem at all. Your max speed was limited to 100mm/s in your config.g and I suggested increasing it to 200mm/s, but you could raise that even more if you want.

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                • Kwad3dundefined
                  Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Kwad3d

                  @Phaedrux there LDO brand motors on X and Y at 0.9 deg. Model 42STh47 1684MAC Standard size motor. no other information about the motors was provided by the retailer of the machine and I could not find the required info on the LDO site.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Do they look like this?

                    https://www.printedsolid.com/products/ldo-nema-17-motor-ldo-42sth47-1684mac

                    If so, 1.68a rated.

                    If that's the case, then the current you have set in M906 in your config.g is quite low at 800ma. Try changing that to 1400 instead.

                    Now your homing file might work better with M913 X70

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                    • Kwad3dundefined
                      Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux Yes. the # number on the end is different on mine but I think that's a batch number or something

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                      • Kwad3dundefined
                        Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux WIll that help with the stall issue or can I disable it

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                        • Kwad3dundefined
                          Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                          last edited by Kwad3d

                          @Phaedrux Does this look ok for my Homex file? I changed the current for x and y already
                          M400
                          M913 X70 Y70 ; drop motor current to 70%
                          M400 G91; relative positioning
                          G1 H2 Z10 F12000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                          G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                          G90 ; absolute positioning
                          M400
                          M913 X100 Y100 ; return current to 100%
                          M400

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            So at this point you should have

                            M203 X12000.00 Y12000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                            M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z100.00 E10000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                            M906 X1400 Y1400 etc etc

                            That homing file looks ok, does it work?

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                            • Kwad3dundefined
                              Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                              last edited by Kwad3d

                              @Phaedrux No same stuff. Bed lowers but the X axis remains motionless and the X location changes to 0. I need to disable the stall detection. I have been printing a long time and that feature will ruin more prints than it will potentially save.

                              I also had my travel speed set to 300mm/s on the coreXy. So do I need to up my limit to 300 right. Don't have any reason to go beyond that.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                But you don't even have an m915 in your config.g to enable stall detection.

                                Once it thinks it's homed can you jog the axis around like normal?

                                Try reducing the speed of the homing move to 6000

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                                • Kwad3dundefined
                                  Kwad3d @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by Kwad3d

                                  @Kwad3d I never got enough information to solve the equation myself. If stall detection is off then what if preventing the homing procedure. Seems to me it is on and I would rather have it turned off. There has never been a print saved by senseless homing in my shop but I have had several failures so I turn it off on printers like my prusa. Yes after it thinks its homed it moves. just will not move beyond the zero position set by the homing move.

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                                  • A Former User?
                                    A Former User @Kwad3d
                                    last edited by

                                    I need to disable the stall detection.

                                    Seems to me it is on and I would rather have it turned off.

                                    if you don't have m915 in your config its not on and you don't need to disable it, its off by default.

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                                    • Kwad3dundefined
                                      Kwad3d @A Former User
                                      last edited by Kwad3d

                                      Ok im making a serious recommendation for the Duet team... order a SKR with some 2209 or other drivers capable of senseless homing and see how simple it is to set up. Only took a few minutes. I have been on this all day. How do I get the axis to just grind into the home position? I know the spot I want to be in in-between there and where im at now.

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        The length of your homing moves? Motor current? Friction? Assumptions?

                                        Paste your homing file(s)?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Kwad3d
                                          last edited by

                                          @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                                          what if preventing the homing procedure.

                                          It's not preventing it, it's just detecting a stall immediately and saying you are homed. False positive.

                                          Please post your config.g again along with your homing files. Let's see what's up.

                                          @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                                          Ok im making a serious recommendation for the Duet team.

                                          I hate to break it to you pal, but the problem isn't the duet, the firmware, or the drivers. The forum isn't flooded with people unable to configure sensorless homing.

                                          So let's put our thinking hats on and figure out what's going on. With a bit of patience you've made it this far, and we got farther faster when you weren't being crusty. 😉

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User @Kwad3d
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            @Kwad3d said in Help me get connected to my Duet2Wifi:

                                            How do I get the axis to just grind into the home position?

                                            why is that a goal?

                                            but G1 H2 X-320.5 F10000 should do it.

                                            G1 H1 X-320.5 F10000 as you had it like will move to the endstop and stop.

                                            To see the difference in H1 and H2 paramterer https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G0_G1_Move

                                            .. core xy .. 🤦

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