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    • didi767undefined
      didi767 @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux So I guess it was something in the gcode. it did start from time to time. so the fan is okay.
      I wanted to ask something else, so few prints have failed, at the end, and then i noticed that my first few layers are not really sticking to the bed so well, so I changed the bed to glass and did the bed leveling and changed the btlouch offset (which is 1.250, is that okay?) and still it seems like it doesn't really stick well, should I increase the bed temp? (currently it's 60).
      I manually level the bed with the piece of paper method and then run the mesh compensation (also when I'm loading it, it gives me a warning message: "Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset."

      so unfortunately no successful prints so far, hopefully you can help out. Thanks!!

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      • didi767undefined
        didi767
        last edited by

        So I just tried to print a bed leveling test and it doesn't really look good. in some corners the squares look great and in other the PLA didn't stick to the bed. Isn't the mesh compensation supposed to take care of this issue?
        I also tried to fine tune the nozzle after the "G30 S-1" command as described in: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

        Am I missing something?

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
          last edited by

          @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

          changed the btlouch offset (which is 1.250, is that okay?)

          You should measure it. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

          @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

          "Warning: the height map was loaded when the current Z=0 datum was not determined probing. This may result in a height offset."

          That's a bit of a problem. Post your current config.g, homeall, homez, and slicer start gcode so we can see what's happening at the start of the print. The error basically means that the heightmap was loaded before the bed has been probed with a G30.

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          • didi767undefined
            didi767
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            homez.g homeall.g config-override.g config.g CE3PRO_Bed_Levelling_Ender_3.gcode

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @didi767
              last edited by

              @didi767

              from your homeall.g

              G29 S1
              G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

              move the G29 S1 to the start g code of your slicer, after the G28

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              • didi767undefined
                didi767 @Veti
                last edited by

                @Veti said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

                G29 S1

                I tried, but it still doesn't print right 😕
                it seems like the nozzle is too high from the bed while printing. but I don't really understand, I thought that the mesh grid will solve this and adjust the height accordingly.
                I'm assuming that no matter what, in different places I will get different trigger results for the probe (no matter how precise I manually level the bed) and the value I put in (currently is 1.140) still doesn't reflect while printing. I tried to increase it slowly but I don't see any difference

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                • didi767undefined
                  didi767
                  last edited by didi767

                  I increased it to 1.350 and it looks a little bit better.
                  I followed the steps as I mentioned but I still don't understand the concept of the mesh grid, I don't see the compensation taking place (as we speak, I see that the print is ruined LOL, the second layer is all messed up...) I'm lost 😞

                  oh.. and the center of the print (it's a grid of squares.. the bed leveling gcode) it looks amazing, but only in the center where I actually did the calibration of the bltouch with the Z offset, but that's obvious that it would be perfect, but the rest of the bed is not..

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @didi767
                    last edited by

                    post a picture of your height map.

                    mesh grid does not compensate for a wrong z offset. it compensates for imperfections in your bed.

                    there are several reasons possible why the mesh grid might not be working as you would expect.
                    your probe x y offset is wrong.
                    gantry twisting, resulting in different trigger heights depending on position.

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      After removing the G29 S1 from your homeall, you should probably re-home the printer and create a new heightmap.

                      Then in your slicer start gcode add the G29 S1 after the G28.

                      Have you calibrated your extruder yet? The perfect first layer is a combination of flow rate, nozzle distance, temperature, and bed surface.

                      You may want to go through this entire calibration guide.https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40

                      Then do a test print like this bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

                      Make sure the bed is clean.

                      While that is printing you can adjust the Z height with baby stepping until the lines are cleanly sticking.

                      Then you can take that baby stepping value and use it to modify your G31 Z trigger height. A larger trigger height will move the nozzle closer to the bed, and vice versa.

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                      • didi767undefined
                        didi767
                        last edited by

                        ![0_1607667539605_height_map.PNG](Uploading 100%) @Phaedrux said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

                        G29 S1

                        Hey guys,

                        so this is the current config files and the height map
                        I went to Cura and added the G29 S1 after G28 Like you mentioned @Phaedrux
                        I went over the calibration again and modified it.
                        so I got 1.350 for the trigger offset, I'm assuming that I need to add few baby steps to make it lower, right? but can I configure that before the print? like getting the exact value I need to add?
                        about the STL file, it didn't let me slice it but I can use the other file, it's okay, right?[3_1607667515380_homez.g](Uploading 100%) [2_1607667515380_homeall.g](Uploading 100%) [1_1607667515379_config.g](Uploading 100%) [0_1607667515376_bed.g](Uploading 100%)

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                        • didi767undefined
                          didi767
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                          height_map.PNG

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                          • didi767undefined
                            didi767
                            last edited by

                            homez.g homeall.g config.g bed.g

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              that bed is quite good.
                              you might get away with not using mesh bed leveling at all.

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                              • didi767undefined
                                didi767
                                last edited by

                                So this is the result of the bed leveing print, It looks okay but I've noticed something... it seems that on the left front corner it doesn't put a great first layer (and at this area the probe doesn't probe the bed since it's not above it, so the mesh bed doesn't reflect that area). does it have to do with that fact? so basically the bltouch is "useless" in my situation?
                                ![1_1607672217245_20201210_233124.jpg](Uploading 100%) ![0_1607672217243_20201210_233113.jpg](Uploading 100%)

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                                • didi767undefined
                                  didi767
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                                  20201210_233113.jpg

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                                    didi767
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                                    20201210_233124.jpg

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                                    • didi767undefined
                                      didi767
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                                      So.. I'm not sure if I just realized something crucial.
                                      the bltouch basically reduces the size of my "actual" printing bed? I need to remove the areas where the bltouch can't probe? if so, I thing I didn't configure the area of the mesh grid correctly 😕
                                      I'm using a standard bltouch mounting (on the left side of the hot end). I'm assuming that the smaller the offset the better? (I mean bigger printing area?)

                                      (I hope my questions are not silly, and sorry if they are, I'm literally learned about printing two weeks ago)

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by Veti

                                        well you could try this probe.

                                        https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32838312776.html

                                        its very cheap( i use it on my delta). and it will turn the nozzle into a probe.

                                        downside is, that you need to manually attach it and on an ender you would need to use the z stop again.

                                        but unless you want to print big things all the time, the bltouch should be good enough.

                                        edit: i am not sure if it fits, if i remember correctly the ender 3 has a thin nozzle.

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                                        • didi767undefined
                                          didi767
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                                          So I was correct? btlouch does "shrink" my bed surface? if so, how can I reflect that on Cura?
                                          I looked at the probe you mentioned and I thought maybe to use an ultrasonic sensor, but then again I just to thought about the hassle of making one to work with the printer 😕 too much work..

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by Phaedrux

                                            No it doesn't shrink your available area. It just means it can't get a height measurement from the entire surface because of the offset. The firmware will extrapolate the non-probed area though. It's still usable.

                                            Your heightmap looks quite good so the bed is pretty flat and well leveled. Maybe tilted a bit down on the right side.

                                            Your test print looks pretty good.

                                            Your homeall and homez use different points to probe,

                                            homez
                                            G1 X45 Y25 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                            homeall
                                            G1 X116 Y116 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point
                                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                            You should change the homez X Y position to match the one from homeall.

                                            You can adjust the G31 Z value up or down to get the nozzle closer or farther away.

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