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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Still not right:

      • Leave the breakout board Step+, Dir+ and Enable+ not connected to anything (and not connected to each other)
      • Connect +5V from the breakout board to COM on your driver

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      • Adamfilipundefined
        Adamfilip
        last edited by

        Ok so your suggesting like this

        S42B-Diagram-v3.jpg

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        • arhiundefined
          arhi
          last edited by

          @Adamfilip said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

          BigtreeTech S42B Closed

          Is this working for you ?!

          I'm doing the simplest thing possible

          DIR -> GND
          EN -> GND
          GND -> GND
          VM -> 12V
          5V -> 5V
          STEP -> 0-5V gpio

          and darn thing won't move ?!?! loosing my hair for 2 days already

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          • alankilianundefined
            alankilian
            last edited by alankilian

            @arhi said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

            EN -> GND

            I don't mean to be Captain Obvious, but do you have the system configured for enable=low?

            It looks like it can be set to either.

            Also, do you have both power supply grounds connected together and to GND on the servo?

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            • Adamfilipundefined
              Adamfilip
              last edited by Adamfilip

              I have just wired up my S42B and Motors

              After i changed settings, I do calibrated and it started working

              This is my current settings for it,

              M569 P5 R0 S0 T3.33:3.33:5:0                                      ; physical drive 0 goes backwards previously P0, p5 is on expansion board
              M569 P8 R0 S0 T3.33:3.33:5:0                                  ; physical drive 1 goes backwarsa previously P1, p8 is on expansion board
              M569 P2 S0                                       ; Z physical drive 2 goes backwards
              M569 P3 S1                                       ; Extruder physical drive 3 goes Forwards
              M584 X5 Y8 Z2 E3                                 ; set drive mapping , old X0 Y1 
              M350 X16 Y16 Z32 I0                              ; configure microstepping without interpolation, previously 32
              M350 E16 I1                                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X100 Y100 Z1593 E409             ; set steps per mm
              M566 X600 Y600 Z20 E800 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) JERK
              M203 X9000 Y9000 Z1500 E10000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X1000 Y1000 Z250 E5000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1500 E1300 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
              M572 D0 S0.0125 ; Pressure Advance 
              
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              • Adamfilipundefined
                Adamfilip
                last edited by

                Woohoo Got it working. check out demo
                https://youtu.be/Qz6EoinibEc

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Adamfilip
                  last edited by

                  @Adamfilip Very cool. Thanks for sharing. Let us know how it works out in practice.

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                  • arhiundefined
                    arhi @alankilian
                    last edited by

                    @alankilian said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

                    I don't mean to be Captain Obvious, but do you have the system configured for enable=low?

                    tried both !Enable and Enable configuration for the good measure, no help

                    Also, do you have both power supply grounds connected together and to GND on the servo?

                    yes

                    Also tried 1234 dip's as 1111 (default, first two are what I understand microstepping, third is open/closed control and fourth is write enable for calibration), 1100, 1101, 0000, 0011, 0001 ... no change

                    at one point I got it to "turn" but was going into "error" after few steps but most of the time it just won't turn at all ... wasted too much time with it I'll try a second driver and a second motor to be sure but I'm moving with my testing to other systems 😞 I think this one was just not meant to be

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Adamfilip
                      last edited by fcwilt

                      @Adamfilip said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

                      Woohoo Got it working. check out demo
                      https://youtu.be/Qz6EoinibEc

                      In real world printing what conditions would correspond to displacing the position with your thumb as you did in your video?

                      Thanks.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Adamfilipundefined
                        Adamfilip @fcwilt
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt none this was as test to see if it would return back to position. this is to help recover from layer shifts.
                        if nozzle gets snagged on something.. its an issue that has been a problem for me and I havent found another mechanical reason to resolve it.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @Adamfilip
                          last edited by

                          @Adamfilip said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

                          if nozzle gets snagged on something.. its an issue that has been a problem for me and I havent found another mechanical reason to resolve it.

                          I've seen the nozzle get snagged on bits of the previous layer sticking up, most always in the area of the gap created by holes the are being made in a vertical section of the object.

                          It would be interesting to see how these devices would behave when that happened.

                          I may have to try closed-loop.

                          Thanks.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • Adamfilipundefined
                            Adamfilip
                            last edited by

                            Im still trying to resolve some glitches and reached out to BIGTREETECH for support.

                            Sometime its working fine and sometimes they are not responding at all.. and sometimes they will vibrate very strongly. perhaps its a magnet issue..I think im going to crazy glue the magnet onto the stepper motor shaft.

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                            • CNCModellerundefined
                              CNCModeller @Adamfilip
                              last edited by

                              @adamfilip

                              What wiring configuration did you end up with?

                              I'm considering trying out the MKS servo42 which has similar connections.

                              Many thanks
                              Barry M

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                              • Massoundefined
                                Masso @Adamfilip
                                last edited by Masso

                                @adamfilip the magnet placing is very sensitive, with my previous Creality and SKR boards I just could not get the distance to work right on the y-axis on my ender 5+ b/c it is a dual shaft stepper.

                                The x-axis always worked fine (OEM complete motor with board and screen already installed out of the box), absolute delight not to have layer shifts anymore, for example PETG blob blocking the carriage and ruining the whole print.

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                                • Massoundefined
                                  Masso @arhi
                                  last edited by Masso

                                  @arhi check if microstepping is 16, dipswitch 4 on, 123 off => press calibrate, make sure the carriage is in the middle of the axis b/c it will calibrate in both directions.

                                  then make sure to press reset and the screen really resets, otherwise it won't work

                                  then dip 4 off, 1 and 2 stay off and dip 3 on, that's it

                                  I wouldn't recommend it without the OLED screen

                                  there is one more thing which may affect you, in Marlin I had to change minimum_stepper_pulse to 3 instead of 2 and maximum_stepper_rate to 150000 from 250000

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                                  • arhiundefined
                                    arhi @Masso
                                    last edited by

                                    @masso said in Configuring S42B Close Loop Stepper Controller:

                                    @arhi check if ..

                                    not running marlin, was stepping from my own rig, very slow, like 1sec on, 1sec off, so that was not an issue... configuration and calibration were all ok, oled on all 5 drivers ... it's just not working ok, skipping steps, missing positions .. dunno if it is firmware or hw problem I gave them away my time is waaaaaaaaaaay to valuable to be wasting them on debugging PRC hw 😞

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                                    • Massoundefined
                                      Masso @arhi
                                      last edited by

                                      @arhi I understand completely 👍

                                      BTT quality is a nightmare, don't ask me how I know. I wish I had started with RepRap and Duet board two years ago when I picked up the hobby, but then again, I've gotten an extensive education on what doesn't work and a bigger appreciation for what does.

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