Toolboard Heater Tuning and Fan Error



  • Good Morning,
    after building my new tool head and mounting everything, I ran into a few problems.

    Both Fans (2-wire,12v) won't turn on. Even with thermostatic control.
    Its a slice 12v mosquito fan and a sunon 5015 blower.
    They are connected to out 2 and out 1

    Out1: gnd and 12v or out1
    Out2: there is only out2 and 12v
    The out.tach is only for 4 wire fans?

    I have tried with S1/0 and H-1 or H1:2 T50
    The are connected

    My last problem: when i am trying to PID Tune the Hotend I got the following message:

    Error m303 remote heater auto tune not implemented

    IMG_20201219_084307.jpg

    And I just fulit the same bltouch message like bevor with a 1.5m long cable.

    ... Probe already triggered bevor move starts...

    I am using the riginal cable. Direct to the screw terminals.

    IMG_20201219_085725.jpg

    Regards Frederik



  • @Frederik said in Toolboard Heater Tuning and Fan Error:

    Error m303 remote heater auto tune not implemented

    you need to move the heater temporarily to the main board, do the tuning there and then go back to the toolboard.

    tuning on the toolboard is not yet implemented



  • @Veti ok, thanks for the quick tip,

    the problem with the fans is solved... I shouldn´t work and post before the first coffee 😉



  • @Veti what could it be the cause that my bltouch stops probing and I got the message :

    G29
    Error: Z probe already triggered before probing move started
    

    it occurs while trying to generate the initial heightmap.



  • @Frederik

    post your config, could also be a wiring issue. the bltouch should not be triggered when idle



  • @Veti

    ; General preferences
    
    G90                                                          ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83                                                          ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M550 P"vcore"                                               ; set printer name
    M669 K1                                                      ; select CoreXY mode
    
    ; Drives
    M569 P0.0 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
    M569 P0.1 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
    M569 P0.2 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
    M569 P0.3 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
    M569 P0.4 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
    M569 P0.5 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
    M569 P121.0 S1                                               ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
    M584 X0.1 Y0.0 Z0.2:0.3:0.4 E0.5:121.0                       ; set drive mapping
    M350 E16 I0                                                  ; configure microstepping without interpolation
    M350 X32 Y32 Z64 I1                                          ; configure microstepping with interpolation
    M92 X320.00 Y320.00 Z3200.00 E830.00                         ; set steps per mm
    M566 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z60.00 E1200.00                       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
    M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00                    ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E250.00                          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
    M906 X1900 Y1900 Z1900 E800 I30                              ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30                                                      ; Set idle timeout
    
    M671 X0:200:400 Y50:400:50 S10 							     ; Position of Leadscrews
    
    ;Duet Laser Filament Monitor
    M591 D0 P5 C"io3.in" R30:130 E3.0 S0 				         ; tolerance 30 to 130%, 3mm comparison length, diabled
    
    
    ; Pressure Advance Tuning
    ;M572 D0 S0.1												  ;Extruder pressure advance: 0.010
    
    ; Cancel Ringing at the defined Freuquenzy
    ;M593 F40.5
    
    
    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                             ; set axis minima
    M208 X410 Y385 Z390 S0                                       ; set axis maxima
     
    
    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 S1 P"121.io2.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin 121.io2.in
    M574 Y1 S1 P"io0.in"                                         ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
    M574 Z2 S2                                                   ; configure Z-probe endstop for high end on Z
    
    ; Z-Probe
    M950 S0 C"121.io0.out"                                       ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
    M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H8 F120 T9000                         ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0                                            ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 X0:400 Y0:400 S20                                       ; define mesh grid
    
    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4100                  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
    M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                           ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0                                                      ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S150                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
    M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
    M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1                                       ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
    M143 H1 S500                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 500C
    M308 S2 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8        ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
    M950 H2 C"out2" T2                                           ; create chamber heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 2
    M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for the chamber heater and set PWM limit
    M141 H2                                                      ; map chamber to heater 2
    M143 H2 S200                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 200C
    
    ; Heater Model Parameters
     M307 H0 R0.641 C945.3 D3.18 S1.00 V24.1	          ; PID Parameters Heated Bed
    			  ; PID Parameters BuildChamber
    			  ; PID Parameters E3D Volcano
    
    
    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"121.out2" Q500                                     ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H-1                                  ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F1 C"121.out1" Q500                                     ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S0 H-1                                    ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    
    ; Tools
    M563 P0 S"Mosquito Magnum" D0 H1 F0:1                        ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                              ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0                                                 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    M563 P1 S"E3D Volcano" D0 F0                                 ; define tool 1
    G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                              ; set tool 1 axis offsets
    G10 P1 R0 S0                                                 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    
    ; Custom settings are not defined
    M912 P0 S-14.8												 ; MCU Temperature Calibration
    
    ; Miscellaneous
    T0                                                           ; select first tool
    
    
    


  • @Frederik said in Toolboard Heater Tuning and Fan Error:

    M350 E16 I0 ; configure microstepping without interpolation

    M350 X32 Y32 Z64 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

    M92 X320.00 Y320.00 Z3200.00 E830.00 ; set steps per mm

    M566 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z60.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)

    M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)

    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

    M906 X1900 Y1900 Z1900 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

    you are missing the config for the second extruder

    what does the bltouch show in the ui when its not deployed?



  • @Veti the second extruder is for my "fast switching" bowden - direct drive setup.

    I used the so-called EVA mod for my printhead, I only have to change 2 screws and 1 piece of plastic to convert my setup from direct to Bowden and vice versa. the Extruder is driven from the Toolboard stepper driver.

    This Toolhead can be used for a Hemera, volcano, mosquito or dragon Hotend, standard or Idex, and with BMG or Titan extruders.

    when in Bowden mode: the duet 3 mainboard drives it

    but I don't want to switch config... only hardware changes 🙂

    at the moment I´m looking for a solution on how to properly mount the tool board when I use the Bowden setup.

    when in direct drive I've mounted it on the backside of the Nema with a printed holder.

    its a really nice design,

    https://pkucmus.github.io/EVA/



  • @Veti Z-Probe 0

    and the red and blue lights are constantly on.

    when doing a standard homeZ. it works fine.

    but when i try to do a mesh with 20mm spacing, it stops with the same error message after a random number of points.. sometimes 40 spots , sometimes only 15 spots



  • a lot of the bltouch problems come from bad wiring.



  • @Veti perhaps this one is software related.

    when i restart the printer without touching the head, it works perfekt....sometimes up to 10 times in a row ..



  • @Veti and when the error occurs, the bltouch is blinkin red and in the dwc i can read z-probe 1000





  • @Veti

    19.12.2020, 14:47:20	
    
    m122 b121
    
    Diagnostics for board 121:
    Duet TOOL1LC firmware version 3.2-beta4.1 (2020-12-03)
    Bootloader ID: not available
    Never used RAM 4180, free system stack 84 words
    HEAT 50 CanAsync 89 CanRecv 83 TMC 54 MAIN 218 AIN 64
    Last reset 00:24:45 ago, cause: VDD brownout
    Last software reset data not available
    Driver 0: position 0, 830.0 steps/mm, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 12, reads 21603, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0
    No step interrupt scheduled
    VIN: 24.1V
    MCU temperature: min 43.5C, current 43.6C, max 46.0C
    Ticks since heat task active 54, ADC conversions started 1479264, completed 1479263, timed out 0
    Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 58 ticks ago, loop time 0
    CAN messages queued 18185, send timeouts 0, received 13832, lost 0, free buffers 36
    
    


  • the bootloader not the firmware. please read the thread.



  • Is it to do with the BLtouch being on the toolboard but the z drivers being on the main board?
    I believe the restriction is still in place about the probe being in a different board



  • @Veti yes , but it says bootloader not available, and i cant find the file. i Have to update via can, do i need the ToolLc1 firmware also or only the bootloader file ?



  • whats the error message when you issue the bootloader update?

    the bootloader files are here as its written in the documentation.
    https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet3Bootloader/releases



  • @Veti bootloader not found

    I looked again in the toolboard documentation, but i cant find the link to the bootloader, there is only a link to GitHub with the step files....

    do i need only the samc21.bin or the .elf file also?

    any additional files needed?

    i added the 3 lines for the workaround also to the end of my config.g

    i will test if now the mesh completes without errors



  • @Veti the samc21 from your link worked.

    m997 b121 s3

    Board 121 starting bootloader update

    19.12.2020, 15:45:56 Datei Duet3Bootloader-SAMC21.bin erfolgreich nach 0s hochgeladen

    now, i´m really curious what the bltouch does 🙂



  • @Veti
    after the update :

    m122 b121
    Diagnostics for board 121:
    Duet TOOL1LC firmware version 3.2-beta4.1 (2020-12-03)
    Bootloader ID: SAMC21 bootloader version 2.1 (2020-11-03b2)
    Never used RAM 4668, free system stack 96 words
    HEAT 50 CanAsync 89 CanRecv 83 TMC 54 MAIN 338 AIN 64
    Last reset 00:02:38 ago, cause: software
    Last software reset data not available
    Driver 0: position 0, 80.0 steps/mm, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 22, reads 13732, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
    Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0
    No step interrupt scheduled
    VIN: 24.1V
    MCU temperature: min 42.0C, current 42.0C, max 42.3C
    Ticks since heat task active 85, ADC conversions started 158578, completed 158577, timed out 0
    Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 88 ticks ago, loop time 0
    CAN messages queued 16, send timeouts 0, received 1436, lost 0, free buffers 36
    

    Is that the right combination of firmwares ?
    i am using DWC 3.2.0beta4

    m122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2-beta4.1 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
    Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TN-6J9DL-3S46S-99AUT
    Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (11 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 123292
    Dynamic ram: 139216 of which 140 recycled
    Never used RAM 129544, free system stack 126 words
    Tasks: Linux(ready,101) HEAT(blocked,272) CanReceiv(blocked,829) CanSender(blocked,352) CanClock(blocked,352) TMC(blocked,20) MAIN(running,669) IDLE(ready,19)
    Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 00:23:02 ago, cause: power up
    Last software reset at 2020-12-19 15:22, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 129752, slot 0
    Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00400000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0xffffffff Task Linu
    Error status: 0x00
    MCU temperature: min 27.7, current 31.2, max 42.6
    Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.1, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
    Driver 0: position 72800, standstill, reads 18438, writes 31 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/248
    Driver 1: position 4000, standstill, reads 18439, writes 31 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/244
    Driver 2: position 6400, standstill, reads 18440, writes 31 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/246
    Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 18440, writes 31 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/245
    Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 18441, writes 31 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/244
    Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 18459, writes 14 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
    Date/time: 2020-12-19 15:51:23
    Slowest loop: 182.07ms; fastest: 0.09ms
    === Storage ===
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
    SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
    === Move ===
    FreeDm 375 (min 372), maxWait 436239ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
    === MainDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 49, completed moves 49, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === AuxDDARing ===
    Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = 3 -1 -1 -1
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Movement lock held by null
    HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    File is idle in state(s) 0
    USB is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
    Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
    Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty.
    === Filament sensors ===
    Extruder 0: no data received
    === CAN ===
    Messages queued 5738, send timeouts 0, received 12611, lost 0, longest wait 3ms for reply type 6049, free buffers 47
    === SBC interface ===
    State: 0, failed transfers: 0
    Last transfer: 19ms ago
    RX/TX seq numbers: 47923/47924
    SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
    Number of disconnects: 0, IAP RAM available 0x209d8
    Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
    === Duet Control Server ===
    Duet Control Server v3.2.0-beta4
    Code buffer space: 4096
    Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
    Full transfers per second: 30.23
    


  • @Veti the bootloader doesent make a big difference 😞

    this time, it completes perhaps 40% of my build area bevor it stops and starts blinking.

    the workaround lines of code are also in place....



  • @Frederik You could try a lower speed in M558. I use 6000.



  • @Stephen6309 i will try, moment



  • you could also try adjusting the grub screw on the top of the bltouch.


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