Extruder Motor Getting Hot.

Veti

the water looks like you have two places where the part fans are blowing and its not underneath the nozzle.
also it does not seem that strong

RAM

@Phaedrux said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

Calibrate the extruder.

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s165

Thanks for that guide, I went through the steps and it seems to be a lot nicer than I have ever had it before.

only thing I did notice when doing the bed leveling test was that the print seems to be way off center for some reason. How do I go about moving the head to more to the center as I can't seem to remember how I did it the 1st time around and have no idea what has changed.

When I measured the spacings with the print on the bed it is off as it shows in the picture.

It needs to be moved up and to the right. But for the life of me I have tried to follow the guide for setting the bed center but nothing seems to make a difference.

Would like to say thanks for all the help you guys have given me with sorting this out I am starting to get a smile back on my face when it comes to this printer.

This is the result I am getting when printing the rounded cube test

@Veti I am not sure if I had the fan set to maximum or not, I will redo the picture with it set to maximum I was a bit worried about blowing water out and all over the printer.

Veti

move go X0 Y0 (G0 X0 Y0)

then measure the distance to real X0 and Y0

and adjust
M208 with the measured values.

Phaedrux

In other words, if your nozzle is off the bed when at 0,0, you can adjust the M208 minima to be negative by whatever amount of distance there is between the corner of the bed and where the endstop actually gets hit.

RAM

@Veti said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

G0 X0 Y0

If I home the X&Y axis they move to
Axis Limits
M208 X-4 Y-25.0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
M208 X270 Y285 Z480 S0 ; set axis maxima

but that doesnt seem to move it to center of the bed for some reason it is slightly out on the Y Axis. If I use the DWC and move it so that it is in the center as I need it then the Y should be at Y150 but it keeps kicking it down more when I print I can't figure it out.

I adjusted the Homeall.g file and changed the Y to 150 and now when I press home all button on the DWC it homes to the middle exactly as I need it to but when I go to print it is out again ?

I have added the config.g file and the homing files just incase you want to look at them and also my S3D Gcode Settings if it helps.

S3D Settings.jpg

config.g
homeall.g
homez.g
homey.g
homex.g

RAM

@Phaedrux yea we did that when we very 1st set it up but it is out of center for some reason. I haven't changed the config files since you helped me get it running. I can only think that I didn't originally notice that the nozzel was out of center when homing and going to print.

Phaedrux

Why do you have tool offsets set up in simplify? You only have one tool.

RAM

@Phaedrux said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

Why do you have tool offsets set up in simplify? You only have one tool.

I did that as a test to see if it would make it center but it didn't

Veti

@RAM said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

but that doesnt seem to move it to center of the bed for some reason it is slightly out on the Y Axis. If I use the DWC and move it so that it is in the center as I need it then the Y should be at Y150 but it keeps kicking it down more when I print I can't figure it out.

forget trying to work that out in the center.

you got to work it out at 0,0
all the adjustment is happening with the M208

RAM

@Veti said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

@RAM said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

but that doesnt seem to move it to center of the bed for some reason it is slightly out on the Y Axis. If I use the DWC and move it so that it is in the center as I need it then the Y should be at Y150 but it keeps kicking it down more when I print I can't figure it out.

forget trying to work that out in the center.

you got to work it out at 0,0
all the adjustment is happening with the M208

ok let me get this right before I go doing anything.
Home all axes then send the (G0 X0 Y0) via the DWC Console and then measure the distance to real X0 and Y0 (to where the certer of the bed is?)

If I home using the DWC Home X & Y buttons they home to X -4 Y -25 which is at the front left corner of my printer. If I use the home all then they home to X146.0 Y 150.0 which is bed center.

If I do home all from the DWC and then send (G0 X0 Y0) the print head goes to the front left corner of the print bed, If I then use the DWC to move the print head to the bed center the X&Y are at X143.0 Y153.0

What do I change this to
; Axis Limits
M208 X-4 Y-25.0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
M208 X270 Y285 Z480 S0 ; set axis maxima

I thought the axis minima & maxima was so that the printer knew what it was allowed to move the print head to as in a coded safe minimum and maximum movement limits

Veti

@RAM said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

If I do home all from the DWC and then send (G0 X0 Y0) the print head goes to the front left corner of the print bed, If I then use the DWC to move the print head to the bed center the X&Y are at X143.0 Y153.0

again forget about the center of the bed.

is x0 y0 direct above the outermost point of the bed?

RAM

@Veti said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

@RAM said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

If I do home all from the DWC and then send (G0 X0 Y0) the print head goes to the front left corner of the print bed, If I then use the DWC to move the print head to the bed center the X&Y are at X143.0 Y153.0

again forget about the center of the bed.

is x0 y0 direct above the outermost point of the bed?

yes it is on the left front corner probably in about 8mm from the very edges of the bed.

Veti

@RAM
move the head using the controlls until its directly above.

that are the values that you need to adjust m208 by

RAM

@Veti

So move the head till it is directly above the corner of the bed then change the M208 so it says what the X & Y are if I am understanding you correctly.

Veti

if it for example reads

X7 Y6
then you need to subtract that from the your minimum values so that the x and y position are reduced.
i.e M208 X-11 Y-31.0 Z0 S1

RAM

@Veti said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

if it for example reads

X7 Y6
then you need to subtract that from the your minimum values so that the x and y position are reduced.
i.e M208 X-11 Y-31.0 Z0 S1

Did what you told me to but nothing has changed.

; Axis Limits
M208 X-4 Y-15.0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima was Y-25
M208 X270 Y285 Z480 S0 ; set axis maxima

Veti

after the change if you go to x0 y0 is it exactly above the edge?

dc42

There is a wiki page about how to centre prints. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Centering_the_bed_or_setting_the_bed_origin

RAM

@Veti said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

after the change if you go to x0 y0 is it exactly above the edge?

homing all axis then sending command (G0 X0 Y0) moves the nozzel so that it is at the left corner of the bed. BUT I cannot move the X axis over so that it is closer to the edge of the bed as its maximum movement is X-4 and that is also where it homes to which that I don't have a issue with.

@dc42 said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

There is a wiki page about how to centre prints. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Centering_the_bed_or_setting_the_bed_origin

Yes I have read that before I even asked for help with this issue.
using the quote from that wiki page.

Xmin edge of the bed is at X=-100 and the homing switch triggers at X=(-100-8) = -108mm. Similarly, the Ymax edge of the bed is at Y=100 and the Y homing switch triggers at Y=(100+2) = 102mm. So we can use the following commands in config.g:

M208 S0 X-108 Y-100 ; set axis lower limits
M208 S1 X100 Y102 ; set axis upper limits

Xmin edge of the bed is atapproximately X=-14 and the homing switch triggers at X=(-4)
it homes to X-4 as that is where the home optical sensor is and I am not able to move it as that is the maximum of the frame size!

The Y Axis when homed is at -15 when moved to the edge of the bed using
(G0 X0 Y0) it is at the edge of the bed as it is expected to be following the instructions kindly given to me both by @Veti and that wiki page, However when sending a file to print it is not printing in the middle of the bed as the above picture clearly shows.

So I set the M208 in the config to
; Axis Limits
M208 X-4 Y-15.0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
M208 X270 Y285 Z480 S0 ; set axis maxima

So in short I don't have a clue as to why. I am clearly missing some bit of information or instructions that have been given to me.
Sorry if this is a pain to have to deal with but I need the help in trying to resolve this.

I am not bothered about the fact that the upload of gcode files fail when they are of a large size that never got sorted out and am quite happy to be pulling the SD card out of the Panel and transferring them that way from now on and having to baby step the DC42 Z-probe down to it's proper printing height even though it was definately setup correctly by me and Phaedrux in the start of this months ago. but having the prints not center to bed is something that I would very much like to get resolved as I am not able to utilise the whole of my print bed size due to the constraints of the frame size.

Veti

@RAM said in Extruder Motor Getting Hot.:

homing all axis then sending command (G0 X0 Y0) moves the nozzel so that it is at the left corner of the bed. BUT I cannot move the X axis over so that it is closer to the edge of the bed as its maximum movement is X-4 and that is also where it homes to which that I don't have a issue with.

i dont quite follow.
are you saying its physically not possible to reach 0,0 with your nozzle?