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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @Alucardi
      last edited by Veti

      @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

      I believe it to be firmware though since even if downloading 3.2 firmware we are stuck on beta, Wonder why they don’t fix that

      if you are on the beta, then stall detection is not implemented

      to update see
      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/20382/unable-to-update-firmware-on-duet-mini-5-ethernet

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk
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        TBH, I couldn't get mine to stall with a simple movement with S set to -64 either.

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • Alucardiundefined
          Alucardi @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti why is this not fixed in the stable release?

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @Alucardi
            last edited by

            @Alucardi

            it is. but the problem is your current programmer

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            • Alucardiundefined
              Alucardi @jay_s_uk
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              @jay_s_uk which means something is not working. It should detect directly. I tried it in my old duet 2 when I was setting that up. It detected a stall as soon as it tried to move the axis.

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              • Alucardiundefined
                Alucardi @Veti
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                @Veti my current programmer?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @Alucardi
                  last edited by

                  @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                  my current programmer?

                  have you read the linked thread?

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                  • Alucardiundefined
                    Alucardi @Veti
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                    @Veti yes and I am no coder so I do not know what a iap file is 🤷‍♂️ Thread is a month old.

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti @Alucardi
                      last edited by

                      @Alucardi

                      just replace the iap file linked in the thread and update the firmware again.

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                      • Alucardiundefined
                        Alucardi @Veti
                        last edited by Alucardi

                        @Veti I have uploaded that file to my card and managed to update I believe. But why does it have to be manually fixed? Not everyone goes to the forum and look on that thread. I downloaded 3.2 a week ago and assumed it was working fine cause I got no error. Just by luck did I see it still said beta when looking around in the menus. I then redownloaded the needed files but it was still on beta.

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                        • Alucardiundefined
                          Alucardi
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                          This might be one thing that cause my issue. Changed to X2 and Y2 and it seem to work.

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X1 S3                                               ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
                          M574 Y1 S3                                               ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
                          M574 Z1 S2                                               ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                          
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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt
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                            All these posts and we forgot to verify what firmware you were using?

                            That's a bit embarrassing.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • Alucardiundefined
                              Alucardi @fcwilt
                              last edited by Alucardi

                              @fcwilt not firmware issue it was endstop issues. Card was on rc2 when it came, sensorless homing worked then.
                              I had this code though M574 X1 S3 but it should be M574 X2 S3. Now it homes x and y. Still get G28 homing failed though. After X and y it just sits there. Will not issue a move to center of the plate. So if you have any input on my z homing sequence that would be awesome. Z axis is reported as homed though.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @Alucardi
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                                @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:
                                So if you have any input on my z homing sequence that would be awesome. Z axis is reported as homed though.

                                Do you still have this line of code:

                                G30 P0 G1 X167.5 Y167.5

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • Alucardiundefined
                                  Alucardi @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt yes i do.

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @Alucardi
                                    last edited by fcwilt

                                    @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                    @fcwilt yes i do.

                                    OK then that is likely the problem.

                                    You need to use G30 by itself.

                                    Unfortunately G30 without a P parameter does not respect the X and Y parameters.

                                    So you have to precede the G30 with a G1 command to move the probe to the correct XY location.

                                    For my printer X=0 and Y=0 is the center of the bed so I can simply use the following G1 command:

                                    G1 X{-sensors.probes[0].offsets[0]}, Y{-sensors.probes[0].offsets[1]}, F6000

                                    to move the probe to the center of the bed.

                                    A somewhat more complicated formula can be constructed for printers where X=0 and Y=0 is NOT the center of the bed.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Alucardiundefined
                                      Alucardi @fcwilt
                                      last edited by Alucardi

                                      @fcwilt I did add and try this. But it just sit at 0 and then say z is homed. It does not even push the probe out.

                                      
                                      G1 H1 X167.5 Y167.5
                                      G30 P0  			    		; home Z by probing the bed
                                      
                                      
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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @Alucardi
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                                        @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                        @fcwilt I did add and try this. But it just sit at 0 and then say z is homed. It does not even push the probe out.

                                        
                                        G1 H1 X167.5 Y167.5
                                        G30 P0  			    		; home Z by probing the bed
                                        
                                        

                                        Remove the H1 and the P0

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • Alucardiundefined
                                          Alucardi @fcwilt
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                                          @fcwilt I works kinda, not moving the axis though.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @Alucardi
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                                            @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                            @fcwilt I works kinda, not moving the axis though.

                                            You mean it is not moving the probe to the center of the bed?

                                            I'm guessing X167.5 and Y167.5 are the center.

                                            Does the bed get probed?

                                            Thanks.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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