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    • o_lampeundefined
      o_lampe
      last edited by

      OK, first step is done. The top and front will be clear PVC.
      cardboard_enclosure-2.jpg
      I've put the white side inside, for better view.
      It's doublewalled cardboard, so I expect good results for narda

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      • o_lampeundefined
        o_lampe
        last edited by

        WOW,
        I just read the dozuki "how to setup a chamber heater and temp-sensor".
        Didn't know it was that difficult?!
        Difficult to understand the dozuki, I had to flip through several deprecated M codes and I still don't know, how to really set a temperature.
        Is it still M141 Sxx? Since M141 Hx is now M950, but M950 description doesn't give clue about setting a target temp.
        I'm sure in the end, it's just a few simple lines in config. g and in the slicer startcode.

        Time to find the "migrate to RRF3.x" page, where all the M-code differences are listed.

        IMHO it would be best to split up the dozuki in independent RRF2.x and RRF3.x sections

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @o_lampe
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          @o_lampe Here's an example from the configurator:

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
          M143 H1 S280                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
          
          M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
          M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2                           ; create chamber heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
          M307 H2 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the chamber heater and set PWM limit
          M141 H2                                        ; map chamber to heater 2
          M143 H2 S280                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
          

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_a_chamber_heater

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • JayJayundefined
            JayJay
            last edited by

            My corexy uses an extrudued frame with a plexiglass enclosure it works well with a pair of halogen terrainium lamps as heaters.

            For controlling heat inside the "chamber" i found i wanted a quick way to know what the inside temp was compared to ambient and to control it in the same simple fashion so i went with a dual channel STC-3008 it allows me to control the A/C lamps totally independant of the Duet, meaning the chamber can act as a filamanet dryer even with the duet turend off I have a DHT22 for measuring humidity so i know what everything is doing. and as i make the chamber as dryer i keep the filamanet inside the chamber too.

            beaware that some extruders and printers using printed parts will soften as chamber temps rise.

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            • mrehorstdmdundefined
              mrehorstdmd @JayJay
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              @JayJay What are the lamps pointing at?

              https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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              • o_lampeundefined
                o_lampe @Phaedrux
                last edited by o_lampe

                @Phaedrux
                Thanks again for shortening my learning curve 🙂

                BTW: your CoreXY has a similar Z-axis than I have, but I had a hard time finding a longer closed loop GT2 belt.
                That's why two of the ballscrews are in this stupid place where they limit my printable area.
                Your blog only says, it's a gates gt2 belt. Do you know a good online source, where they stock different length's belts?

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                • macguyverundefined
                  macguyver
                  last edited by

                  Bear in mind that plywood, cardboard, and acrylic are all flammable materials. Polycarbonate is flame resistant and has a better insulation than acrylic. It is easier to cut & drill too, requiring no special bits/blades. It is however more expensive.

                  For a heater I use an electronics enclosure heater. I use a Stego 04641.9-00. They're $150-300 new, but can be had on ebay for a fraction of that price. These are technically designed to do exactly what we want/need them to do.

                  Filament inside the printer means that it will preheat it meaning your hotend doesn't have to work as hard, or can potentially go faster. It can also theoretically dry out the filament some. It will however require opening the printer to do filament changes.

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                  • o_lampeundefined
                    o_lampe @macguyver
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                    @macguyver
                    Thanks for the recommendations, but at the moment, I'll have to use, what's laying around.

                    I'm currently living like Grizzly Adams in the woods, where there's no hardware shop around and the postman will arrive next spring 😉

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                    • macguyverundefined
                      macguyver @o_lampe
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                      @o_lampe That's even more reason to be careful and do it right because living out in the woods often means that the fire trucks wont arrive in time to do anything but cool down the ashes of what used to be your cabin in the woods. A smoke alarm and a self deploying range top fire extinguisher are also good ideas.

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                      • o_lampeundefined
                        o_lampe @macguyver
                        last edited by

                        @macguyver
                        My chamber heater element has a safety-thermostat at 167°F/75°C.
                        I hope that'll do the trick.
                        Usually, I never leave my printer unattended.
                        Currently I'm more concerned about my waterpipe freezing , than getting roasted in a cozy campfire.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @o_lampe
                          last edited by

                          @o_lampe said in general (heated) enclosure questions for ABS printing:

                          gates gt2 belt. Do you know a good online source, where they stock different length's belts?

                          I believe I got a few different belts from a few different sources. Some were from AliExpress. Some from ebay. Some from 3d Print shops online. It's a lot easier to find quality stuff online now than it was when I was looking.

                          It may say gates GT2 but I don't think any of the closed loop belts I have are genuine.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @o_lampe
                            last edited by

                            @o_lampe said in general (heated) enclosure questions for ABS printing:

                            BTW: your CoreXY has a similar Z-axis than I have

                            I recently modified my z axis to make the motor mount more rigid to stop some bouncing I was having with the printed mount.

                            IMG_0828.JPG IMG_0827.JPG

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