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    • fcwilt
      fcwilt last edited by

      Hi,

      This has been discussed in the past but I was wondering if any such command has since been implemented.

      Thanks.

      Frederick

      Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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      • T3P3Tony
        T3P3Tony administrators last edited by

        As it stands heaters that are associated with tools use the tool state for active/ standby (Tn = active for tool N, T-1 or select another tool for standby). DWC inerprets a heater that has both its active and standby temperatures set to the minimum as being "off", e.g.:

        G10 P0 S-273.15 R-273.15 ; set tool 0 off
        

        Bed heaters can use M144 to set to standby or back to active (set to -273 using M140 for off )

        Chamber heaters can have a standby temperature set but at this point I cannot see any method to actually change a chamber heater into standby mode to use this temperature.

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        • fcwilt
          fcwilt @T3P3Tony last edited by

          @T3P3Tony

          Thanks.

          So long story short - no such command yet exists to simply control the state.

          Frederick.

          Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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          • T3P3Tony
            T3P3Tony administrators last edited by

            It does not.

            I am not sure there is a usecase for controlling the state of a heater on a tool, independently of the tool state.

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            • T3P3Tony
              T3P3Tony administrators last edited by T3P3Tony

              update @Phaedrux pointed out this pull request from @gtj0

              https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/pull/407

              (edit) That appears to apply to bed and chamber heaters.

              gtjoseph created this issue in Duet3D/RepRapFirmware

              closed Enhance M140, M141 and T with heater state controls #407

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              • fcwilt
                fcwilt @T3P3Tony last edited by

                @T3P3Tony said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                update @Phaedrux pointed out this pull request from @gtj0

                https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/pull/407

                Thanks again - but I don't know what a "pull request" is.

                Frederick

                Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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                • T3P3Tony
                  T3P3Tony administrators @fcwilt last edited by

                  @fcwilt a proposed code update on github

                  I was linking it here as it applied to your original request

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                  • fcwilt
                    fcwilt @T3P3Tony last edited by

                    @T3P3Tony

                    Got it - thanks.

                    And I am currently doing as suggested G10 P0 S-999 R-999 which is a bit non-intuitive but it works.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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                    • T3P3Tony
                      T3P3Tony administrators @fcwilt last edited by

                      @fcwilt may I ask why you need to turn off (as opposed to set to zero) tools?

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                      • fcwilt
                        fcwilt @T3P3Tony last edited by

                        @T3P3Tony said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                        @fcwilt may I ask why you need to turn off (as opposed to set to zero) tools?

                        It's just the way my mind works.

                        In my home I can set the mode (off, heat, cool, auto) of the thermostats independently of the heat/cool set points.

                        Sort of, vaguely, in a round about way, kind of the same thing. 😉

                        Frederick

                        Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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                        • gtj0
                          gtj0 last edited by

                          Finally, someone other than me that thinks having the ability to control heater states independent of tools or temperature is a good thing.

                          I've brought this up several times over the past few years but it never goes anywhere or the response is "Let's talk about it with the next release". I guess it's time for me to start pushing it again.

                          My examples were to do preheating of tools before use, ease of toggling bed and chamber heaters without mucking with the temps, being able to testing and tune during printer construction, etc.

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                          • fcwilt
                            fcwilt @gtj0 last edited by

                            @gtj0 said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                            Finally, someone other than me that thinks having the ability to control heater states independent of tools or temperature is a good thing.

                            Well to me it makes perfect sense since they are independent properties.

                            As it is, as shown, I have to set both temps to a large negative number before the heater will turn off.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

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                            • gtj0
                              gtj0 @fcwilt last edited by

                              @fcwilt Exactly.

                              I'll make another run at @dc42 with my latest patch that adds that capability.

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                              • engikeneer
                                engikeneer @gtj0 last edited by

                                @gtj0 I'd vote for this too!

                                It may be more of a DWC thing, but I run a chimera. If I set a print going using only one nozzle, I'd still like to be able to manually set the unused too standby in some cases (e.g. because I notice it's hitting the print), when it would usually just be off. I've not yet found a way to put a tool into standby without affecting the active tool (which is not ideal if that tool is printing!)

                                Another use case I can think of would be manually changing filaments in a docked tool on a tool changer

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                                • dc42
                                  dc42 administrators @engikeneer last edited by

                                  @engikeneer said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                                  If I set a print going using only one nozzle, I'd still like to be able to manually set the unused too standby in some cases (e.g. because I notice it's hitting the print), when it would usually just be off. I've not yet found a way to put a tool into standby without affecting the active tool (which is not ideal if that tool is printing!)

                                  We already have plans for this, which I originally hoped to include in 3.2 but we ran out of time, so it will be in 3.3.

                                  I have added a comment th the PR from @gtj0.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by A Former User

                                    @fcwilt
                                    @gtj0

                                    Hi,
                                    juast asking as an end-user:
                                    As far as I understood your "pull-request", it could be that my usecase could already be implemented by your suggested changes, but: Since e.g. within M144 the letter "S" is used, would it make sense to use that also for your suggestions, I have seen "A" is proposed? Or to keep things consistent change M144 "S" also to "A" for state? Or is M144 on the long run going to be depracted?

                                    all the best

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                                    • zerspaner_gerd
                                      zerspaner_gerd last edited by

                                      @T3P3Tony said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                                      @fcwilt may I ask why you need to turn off (as opposed to set to zero) tools?

                                      One use case that I would need it for would be a pause in printing.
                                      Since you are not always on site I would like to switch off T0 and T1, but without changing or losing the set active and standby temperature.
                                      So that when you continue printing, the correct temperatures are available without having to make this setting.

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                                      • kenny_mc_cormick
                                        kenny_mc_cormick @dc42 last edited by

                                        @dc42

                                        hey, sorry if i'm creating a double, but does the feature been added ?
                                        i've checked changelogs and Gcode dictionary, but i havn't find the answer.
                                        If it's added what's M or G code it is ?

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                                        • Phaedrux
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @kenny_mc_cormick last edited by

                                          @kenny_mc_cormick https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M568_Set_Tool_Settings

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                                          • dc42
                                            dc42 administrators @kenny_mc_cormick last edited by

                                            @kenny_mc_cormick it's added in 3.3RC2 which is soon to be released.

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                                            • kenny_mc_cormick
                                              kenny_mc_cormick @dc42 last edited by kenny_mc_cormick

                                              @dc42 awsome !! can't wait to have it ! 🙂
                                              you guys doing such a good job !

                                              edit:
                                              @Phaedrux i check that. I guess it's "M568 P2 A1 ; set tool 2 heaters to their standby temperatures" to use, but does it set the tool on standby or does it just turn the heating on ?

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                                              • dc42
                                                dc42 administrators @kenny_mc_cormick last edited by

                                                @kenny_mc_cormick said in Command to turn heaters active/standby/off?:

                                                @dc42 awsome !! can't wait to have it ! 🙂
                                                you guys doing such a good job !

                                                edit:
                                                @Phaedrux i check that. I guess it's "M568 P2 A1 ; set tool 2 heaters to their standby temperatures" to use, but does it set the tool on standby or does it just turn the heating on ?

                                                It turns the heaters on too.

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