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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

      @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

      Found it.

      Shouldn't the items related to M669 also be in the gcode dictionary along with all the other types?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • Shinomoriundefined
        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux
        Tried changing the to the Radius one.

        M98 shows no errors.

        m557
        Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points

        G30 works. G29 still throws the:
        Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

        Config.g:
        ; General preferences
        G91 ; send relative coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

        ; Drives
        M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
        M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
        M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
        M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

        ; Axis Limits
        M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

        ; Endstops
        ; WARNING: No endstops configured

        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
        M557 R400 S200
        ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
        M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
        M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H-1

        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined
        M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
        ; Miscellaneous
        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        T0 ; select first tool

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt Yes. 😉

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

            m557
            Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points
            G30 works. G29 still throws the:
            Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

            Alright. I'll have to get DC42 to take a look. It may be a bug.

            At this point it would be helpful to be able to test in standalone mode so that we could narrow down if the problem is with the firmware or with DSF on the Pi.

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            • Shinomoriundefined
              Shinomori @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux
              That would be with direct USB connection?
              Or is there a way to do it direct with network cable?

              Mounted on the ceiling connecting through wire with laptop is a challenge. Our print area takes up a 13ftx13ft space.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                Standalone mode means that the Duet has a direct network connection and an SD card is needed in the Duet with your config files and the files for DWC. The Pi isn't used in this mode. No direct USB connection, but the Duet3 requires ethernet. So that may be a problem if you were depending on wifi for the Pi.

                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                • Shinomoriundefined
                  Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux
                  Yeah we are relying on the PI.

                  We have no networking in this building yet. The pi is connecting to a wifi hotspot on my phone and I'm using that to talk to the printer.

                  If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                    @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                    If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

                    Yes if you can route the cable that would work. You'd need to manually set an IP address for the Duet in config.g and then manually set an IP address on your laptop. Both IP addresses must be in the same subnet. Then you can connect to DWC via the Duet IP.

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Setting_up_networking_on_Duet#Section_Duet_2_Ethernet_Duet_2_Maestro_and_Duet_3_with_Ethernet_in_standalone_mode

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                    • Shinomoriundefined
                      Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux
                      Sounds good. Thanks. I'll get a long network cable next time I come down here. So if we need to go direct I'll be able to. Look forward to seeing what DC42 thinks. Thanks again for the help.

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @Shinomori
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                        @shinomori

                        Hi,

                        Just out of curiosity what is the "raison d'etre" for a hang printer?

                        Thanks.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • Shinomoriundefined
                          Shinomori @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt We are working with a group that is wanting to print building sized objects with a custom material, but the printer needs to be easy to transport. I know of no other printer that can do such a large print volume with so few materials for the printer itself. So we proposed a hangprinter This is the first phase proof of concept. If it works we'll be moving to a v4 hangprinter with a pellet extruder. This is why the mesh level needs to be working. We are currently trying to print on 4x8 sheets and will eventually be printing straight to the ground.

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @Shinomori
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                            @shinomori

                            Interesting.

                            Hope it works out.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                              @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                              M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000

                              In case you're still at the printer to test.. Would you be able to try increasing the dive height? M558 H5 to H15? I just noticed that your M208 Z minima is -5mm which is the same as your dive height.

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                              • Shinomoriundefined
                                Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux
                                We'll probably be over later this week to work on it some more. I'll try setting the dive height larger than the z minima. And the other way around. It is interesting that probing one point manually currently works. Used to establish Z0 to before trying to create a mesh level. It only fails when trying to do the mesh. So it seems there is something odd there. It still does load the old mesh file from the last time I ran it before doing all the updates.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  Can you post the heightmap.csv file from the previously saved G29 run?

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                                  • Shinomoriundefined
                                    Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                    @phaedrux
                                    Ok I tried:
                                    M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                    M208 Z-5 S1

                                    and:
                                    M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000
                                    M208 Z-15 S1

                                    In both cases:
                                    I ran G28 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 U0 then G30. The manual probing screen came up but the print head didn't move after setting height it moved up the dive height in M558. The running G29 this came up:

                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM G29
                                    Error: Too few points probed

                                    Here is the config:
                                    ; General preferences
                                    G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                    M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                    M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                    M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                    M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                    M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                    M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                    M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                    M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                    M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                    M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                    M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                    ; Axis Limits
                                    M208 Z-15 S1 ; set axis minima
                                    M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                    ; Endstops
                                    ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                    ; Z-Probe
                                    M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                    M557 R400 S200
                                    ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                    ; Heaters
                                    M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                    M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                    M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                    M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                    M140 H-1

                                    ; Fans
                                    M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                    ; Tools
                                    M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                    ; Custom settings are not defined
                                    M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                    ; Miscellaneous
                                    M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                    T0 ; select first tool

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                                    • Shinomoriundefined
                                      Shinomori @Shinomori
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                                      @shinomori
                                      Here is the height map from the old config.

                                      heightmap.csv

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                                        @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                        M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                        M208 Z-5 S1

                                        This would be preferable.

                                        @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                        then G30. The manual probing screen came up but the print head didn't move after setting height it moved up the dive height in M558.

                                        So when G30 is sent with M558 P0 set, there should be a prompt pop up to allow you to jog the Z axis up and down. Did that happen? Are you saying the movement buttons did not respond?

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                                          Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                          @phaedrux
                                          When sending the G30 command the the print head doesn't move and the ui for moving the axis comes up. The buttons work to move the print head. I use those buttons to set the height and hit ok. Then the head moves up to the dive height.

                                          When sending G29 there is no motion only errors.

                                          When it was working it would move to the location for each probe at z=H parameter in M558.

                                          I wonder if the lack of motion at the start of G30 is an indication of what is causing the G29 to fail?

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                                            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                            When sending the G30 command the the print head doesn't move and the ui for moving the axis comes up. The buttons work to move the print head. I use those buttons to set the height and hit ok. Then the head moves up to the dive height.

                                            That's exactly how M558 P0 and manual probing works. You have to manually move the nozzle to touch the bed. So G30 sounds like it's working.

                                            Once you've done that G30 and set the Z0 position are you able to jog the print head around manually?

                                            With M558 P0 set, using G29 should indeed prompt you to jog down at each point.

                                            And just to confirm, that's with this set?

                                            M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                            M208 Z-5 S1

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