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    • Sergeundefined
      Serge @dc42
      last edited by

      @dc42 Same for me.

      And after a very long time idle, the sensor temp works around the bed sensor temp but is very unstable :

      Enregistrement d'écran 2021-08-03 à 17.53.47.mp4

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      • juliannundefined
        juliann @Serge
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        @serge said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

        @juliann Yes, exactly the same issue i have.

        Yes @Serge I think you are correct, it seems we have exactly the same issue now.

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        • Sergeundefined
          Serge
          last edited by

          Rolling back the toolboard firmware to 3.3, and no issue than 6° higher for the hotend than the bed sensor. But stable.

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          • empi00undefined
            empi00
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            I can confirm also a kind of this bug.
            2f8df8b1-c583-403a-85f7-5652f21b9091-image.png
            Before the update I had around 29°C on the HotEnd.

            M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" A"HotEnd" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8

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            • empi00undefined
              empi00 @empi00
              last edited by

              @empi00
              Flashing back to 3.3 and:

              1ece14fe-c7b2-46d9-92da-b4d642e90434-image.png

              PS: Using Duet3 with SBC and Toolboard 1.1

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @empi00
                last edited by dc42

                @empi00 I am wondering whether it just needs different calibration. Please can you:

                1. Send M308 S1 (assuming the tool board thermistor is Sensor 1) and record the result, in particular the H and L values.
                2. Send M122 B121 and record the reported VIN value
                3. Switch the tool board firmware to 3.4beta2.
                4. Send M308 S1 again, check that it reports the same H and L
                5. Send M122 and check tna the reported VIN value is the same as before
                6. Run the calibration procedure described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_thermistor_and_PT1000_readings on the tool board thermistor input. If it's tricky to do the short-circuit calibration test, just do the open-circuit calibration, which should be sufficient to correct the reading at room temperature.
                7. Send M308 S1 again to see the new H and L values
                8. Check whether the readings are now correct.

                I am assuming that you do not have H and L parameters in your M308 commands in config.g, so it will use the values stored in NVRAM.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • chrishammundefined
                  chrishamm administrators @Serge
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                  @serge said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

                  NullReferenceException

                  If you manage to reproduce this, please open a Linux console and send journalctl -u duetcontrolserver -e --no-pager and send me the output. It should contain the stack trace of the underlying exception, which should make it easier for me to fix.

                  Duet software engineer

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                  • uneumann36undefined
                    uneumann36
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                    Hey guys.
                    So i am not an expert in programing stuff.

                    I change a lot on my modified Ender5 in the last week.
                    Try different hotends (THC-01 , Cyclops+ original , Cyclops fake , 2 in 1 out)
                    Update to capacitive sensor........

                    Everytime i got bad printing results. Lot of stinging and so on.

                    Today, i swop back to firmware 3.3.0 and print the same stinging test what was on the sd cart.
                    I am supprised!
                    Have a look on the picture yourself.
                    I do not know if it has to do with the firmware...
                    But i only change the firmware.

                    Don´t understand me wrong, i like duet products, and this should only help you.

                    IMG_5442[1].JPG

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by dc42

                      @uneumann36 hanks for your feedback. It would be helpful if you could run the tests that I asked for in my response to @empi00, which is about 3 posts before this one.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • empi00undefined
                        empi00 @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42
                        I will.
                        But i can only do it wednessday earlierst, as I am out with my family the next days!

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @dc42
                          last edited by

                          BTW I am running two tool boards in one of my machines, and I don't see this issue. I've already reviewed all the code changes twice looking for changes that might be relevant.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • pixelpieperundefined
                            pixelpieper
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                            If you need an other datapoint: it also happens with PT1000.

                            Screenshot 2021-08-06 at 16.41.07.png

                            (Duet 3 Mini5+ / Duet 1LC V1.1)

                            Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                            Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @pixelpieper
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                              @pixelpieper thanks for that. It looks like something is affecting the ADC accuracy. It may be just a timing issue affecting the calibration, which is why I would like users who experience this issue to measure the H and L values that are set by the calibration process. Version 1.1 tool boards are calibrated during manufacture using firmware 3.3.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • Sergeundefined
                                Serge @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 Thanks, it seems to work now. But cannot make a M308 S1 L999.

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                                • Sergeundefined
                                  Serge @chrishamm
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                                  @chrishamm said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

                                  journalctl -u duetcontrolserver -e --no-pager

                                  Journal.txt

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @Serge
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                                    @serge said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

                                    @dc42 Thanks, it seems to work now. But cannot make a M308 S1 L999.

                                    Please explain what you mean by that.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                    • Sergeundefined
                                      Serge @dc42
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

                                      @empi00 I am wondering whether it just needs different calibration. Please can you:

                                      1. Send M308 S1 (assuming the tool board thermistor is Sensor 1) and record the result, in particular the H and L values.
                                      2. Send M122 B121 and record the reported VIN value
                                      3. Switch the tool board firmware to 3.4beta2.
                                      4. Send M308 S1 again, check that it reports the same H and L
                                      5. Send M122 and check tna the reported VIN value is the same as before
                                      6. Run the calibration procedure described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_thermistor_and_PT1000_readings on the tool board thermistor input. If it's tricky to do the short-circuit calibration test, just do the open-circuit calibration, which should be sufficient to correct the reading at room temperature.
                                      7. Send M308 S1 again to see the new H and L values
                                      8. Check whether the readings are now correct.

                                      I am assuming that you do not have H and L parameters in your M308 commands in config.g, so it will use the values stored in NVRAM.

                                      Hi dc42, this is for that.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @Serge
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                                        @serge what were the values reported by M308 S1 before and after you ran the M308 S1 H999 command?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • Sergeundefined
                                          Serge @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 H-8 L-13
                                          after the calibration, H51 L-13, but i can't calibrate with M308 S1 L999

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @Serge
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                                            @serge said in After updating to 3.4.0beta2: faulty heater 1, -273.1C.:

                                            @dc42 H-8 L-13
                                            after the calibration, H51 L-13, but i can't calibrate with M308 S1 L999

                                            Thanks. Do you mean you can't calibrate because you can't easily short the pins TEMP0 together?

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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