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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @Heartleander81
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      @heartleander81 said in Isusses after prime:

      if I delete or comment out the first Retract G1 E-0.6000 F1200 from the sliced ​​file, there are no problems with the X axis or the extruder

      This still very much sounds like it's in absolute extrusion mode and it's pausing while it's trying to move the extruder to undo all of the previous extrusion commands.

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      • Heartleander81undefined
        Heartleander81
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        I apologize if my sentences read clumsily or unkindly. I work with google translators because my english is very bad. I am very, very grateful for the help that I am getting because I am slowly becoming desperate.

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        • Heartleander81undefined
          Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux
          ok i understand that and is understandable. but why is he doing this? in the start code it runs great in the M83 and after that I no longer give an M82 command. I switched Simplify3D to M83 and the sliced ​​code also looks like it.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Heartleander81
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            @heartleander81 said in Isusses after prime:

            M955 P20.0 I10

            Can you try commenting out the accelerometer command?

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            • Heartleander81undefined
              Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux
              Have I do yesterday. But with M82.

              I can try it in 30 min.

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              • Heartleander81undefined
                Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux

                Is the same

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  your video is very short and a little confusing to me. It looks like it goes into slow motion? Is that to show the stuttering? Can you upload a new video that's a bit longer and doesn't go to slow mo? Describe for us exactly at what point each piece of gcode is executing from the time you hit print to the time you see the problem.

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                  • Heartleander81undefined
                    Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    @phaedrux

                    https://youtu.be/lhOgw-MZr2o

                    This Video is without slow motion and with Sound.

                    G90
                    M83
                    M106 S0
                    M140 S50
                    M190 S50
                    M104 S240 T0
                    M109 S240 T0
                    T0
                    M98 P"startGcode"
                    G92 E0.0
                    ; process CR3D 0.4
                    ; layer 1, Z = 0.200
                    T0
                    G1 E-0.6000 F1200   ; if I comment out this line then the error is not there.
                    ; feature skirt
                    ; tool H0.200 W0.440
                    G1 Z0.200 F600
                    G1 X19.489 Y53.567 F12600
                    G1 E0.6000 F1200
                    G1 X280.511 Y53.567 E8.9768 F1800
                    ; layer end
                    T0
                    M98 P"endGcode"
                    
                    
                    G32
                    G29 S1 P"heightmap.csv"
                    G1 X5 Y5 Z30 F6000.0 
                    G1 E40 F600
                    G1 E40 F200
                    G1 Y20 F2000
                    G1 Y50 Z0.2 F2000
                    G1 Y90 E20 F300
                    G1 Y120 F1200
                    
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                    • Heartleander81undefined
                      Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux
                      Is that video better?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Yes I think so. At what point in the gcode stream does the video start?

                        It looks like it's just finished homing, or is that it finishing G32?, moves to the corner, purges some filament, then draws a purge line, and moves to start another line across the bed.

                        What is in M98 P"startGcode" ?

                        Is it this?

                        G32
                        G29 S1 P"heightmap.csv"
                        G1 X5 Y5 Z30 F6000.0 
                        G1 E40 F600
                        G1 E40 F200
                        G1 Y20 F2000
                        G1 Y50 Z0.2 F2000
                        G1 Y90 E20 F300
                        G1 Y120 F1200
                        

                        @heartleander81 said in Isusses after prime:

                        G28Z

                        What do you have in homez.g?

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                        • Heartleander81undefined
                          Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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                          @phaedrux
                          Yes that is my startcode

                          The video start after finish G32.

                          After the the Purge line goes X to 110 and from ther Point start the slicing Part with G1 E-0.600 F1200 and on the next move to print Point start ist the issuse.
                          I think I See at dwc Motor E run to Zero and back without 0.6mm
                          From E100 to E0 to E99.4

                          ; homez.g
                          ; called to home the Z axis
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Wed Aug 26 2020 16:14:58 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)
                          
                          ;G91                ; relative positioning
                          ;G1 Z5 F600    ; lift Z relative to current position
                          ;G90                ;
                          G1 X129.4 Y139.4 F3000   ;
                          M401
                          G30                ; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
                          M402
                          ;G90
                          
                          ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                          ;G1 X0 Y0 F6000       ; lift Z relative to current position
                          ;G1 Z5 F600
                          
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                          • Heartleander81undefined
                            Heartleander81
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                            My homez is old. I know i must clean it. 😅🙈

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by Phaedrux

                              By the way, when using a BLtouch you do not need to use M401/M402 explicitly. The G30 commands will deploy and retract as needed.

                              The only thing I can think of for the extrusion move is that your E speeds may be a bit aggressive?

                              M566 X1250.00 Y1250.00 Z200.00 E1000.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)

                              M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z600.00 E16000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)

                              M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z200.00 E2000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

                              Perhaps F1200 is too much for the extruder? It seems fairly low speed though for retraction, so I'm not sure.

                              I'm kind of at a loss. Is the problem causing any actual detriments?

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                              • Heartleander81undefined
                                Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
                                last edited by Heartleander81

                                @phaedrux

                                Any other Propeller use 50-70mm/s retract speed. There is my 20 very slow.

                                Without filament I can speed the extruder high. With optimal print Temp and filament can I extrude ~20mm/s.

                                I have this 20mm/s use the last 6-8 month without Problem.

                                Any time I have step lost on X and Y

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                                • Heartleander81undefined
                                  Heartleander81
                                  last edited by

                                  https://youtu.be/h9OgIKBjpsM

                                  If you look at this video you can see how the car brakes hard by braking and starting again and then continues jerking, and the belts wobble a lot. Depending on how it vibrates, the motors lose steps and I no longer print in the middle. In the long run, the jerking is not healthy for the whole mechanics

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                                  • Heartleander81undefined
                                    Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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                                    @phaedrux

                                    But the question is why run the extruder to 0 and back to 99.4 when M83 is Configured?

                                    When I All write to M82 and slice M82 is the same problem. At this one Point reset the firmware not the extruder.

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                                    • Heartleander81undefined
                                      Heartleander81
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                                      That Video is with a another Purge line.

                                      There is with step lost on X and Y. The print must start on the middle on x150 Y150 but is in the left back corner.

                                      https://youtu.be/UaVkC-F1cfM

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Have you tested in standalone mode yet without the SBC?

                                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                                        • Heartleander81undefined
                                          Heartleander81 @Phaedrux
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                                          @phaedrux no. I dount have standalone configured

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            As process of elimination it may help to know if the problem still presents in standalone mode.

                                            You can copy your current config files onto a fresh SD card that has the folder structure and DWC files present and use that SD card in the Duet. That link describes in more detail.

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