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    dc42 administrators @oozeBot
    last edited by 24 Aug 2022, 13:10

    @oozebot said in Beta testers for multiple motion system support:

    @dc42 good call. Sorry to semi-hijack this thread, but can you please take a look at the following snippet? It works from daemon.g, but it is pausing the print when the C axis is moved. I thought this would be out of process from the job?

    There is only a single motion system in the current RRF, so the C axis movement has to be inserted into that queue.

    Furthermore, the G92 C0 command will wait until all pending movement has been completed and there is no movement before it executes. You may get better results if you can rewrite that code without using G92 C0, but there will still be slight pauses.

    Hopefully I'm doing something wrong.. If not, would this scenario be supported by the update for multiple motion systems?

    Yes.

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      dc42 administrators @zruncho
      last edited by 24 Aug 2022, 13:11

      @zruncho said in Beta testers for multiple motion system support:

      If I understand the G-code description, though, this seems like more of a "collision detect & then abort" than proactive avoidance?

      Correct. It's up to the slicer to do proactive avoidance. The collision detection is there as a backup.

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        o_lampe
        last edited by 31 Aug 2022, 06:20

        @dc42 With a dual gcode stream, would it be possible to run a "colour-splicer" machine?
        The idea is to use a single Bowden tube hotend and feed it with filament cutoffs of different colours.
        The cutoff length would be calculated by checking the gcode for tool changes. (the toolchange macros are basically for cutting off the current filament and feed forward the next colour)
        The "length of the Bowden tube X extrusion speed " would determine the time it takes before colour "X" reaches the nozzle and the second gcode stream would do the motion planning with a fixed delay between splicing and extruding.

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          misan
          last edited by 6 Sept 2022, 09:22

          I considered this a while ago for CNC machining: https://fightpc.blogspot.com/2017/10/getting-work-done-faster-on-cnc-machine.html

          More than going for a self-scheduling system handling collisions, I went for a simpler system where both heads will swipe space from "left to right" keeping a safe distance. But I never went beyond the concept. In my case, each head could have a different Z height.

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            dc42 administrators @misan
            last edited by 1 Nov 2022, 23:33

            I finally got time today to work on this again. Here's an example of multiple motion systems in operation. https://www.dropbox.com/s/v18lgomkg44ald9/20221101_223148.mp4?dl=0

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              Hoops40 @dc42
              last edited by 5 Jan 2023, 19:59

              @dc42 any updates? Also was wondering if there is capability in independent z axis as well?

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                jay_s_uk @Hoops40
                last edited by 5 Jan 2023, 20:56

                @Hoops40 RRF3.5b1 has been released with support for multi motion systems. I don't believe there is currently independent Z axis support

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  Hoops40 @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by 20 Jan 2023, 22:56

                  @jay_s_uk OK thank you.

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                    Aurimas @dc42
                    last edited by 18 Aug 2023, 03:25

                    @dc42 could you please share a sample file of how the file looks?
                    is it something like

                    M596 P1
                    G1 X50 Y75 E2
                    M400
                    M596 P0
                    G1 U85 W9 E3
                    M400

                    ?
                    I cannot figure it out from the manual.
                    sorry for a silly question.

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                      dc42 administrators @Aurimas
                      last edited by 11 Sept 2023, 14:05

                      @Aurimas like that but without the M400 commands. Also you can have a block of G1 commands after each M596 command rather than just one.

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