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    • supertb1undefined
      supertb1
      last edited by

      Hello, I Have 2 machines with Duet 3 6HC, 2 1HCL boards. I updated my larger machine with no issue but the newer of the 2 machines did not make it through the MB6HC update, I lost internet connection with it when it failed step 3 five times. Now I cannot connect via DWC and the PanelDue simply says connecting in the top right corner. Any help would be great. Cheers

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @supertb1
        last edited by

        @supertb1 plug your computer into it and check whether it comes up as a bossa port

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • supertb1undefined
          supertb1 @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk nope… it does not come up as a port in bossa… looks like just bricked my board… what I would like to know is why does the new firmware update work fine for my older MB6HC but it crashes my newer board… how does that happen?.. so now I need to start from zero? IE reset the board, delete sys file… Fallback procedure #1?

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk @supertb1
            last edited by

            @supertb1 no need to delete the contents of the SD card. Just use fallback 2 which I think is erase and bossa

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • supertb1undefined
              supertb1 @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk Ok rolled back to RC1, I think I will wait till you guys get 3.4.2 up before I do that again, lol big ole pain in the butt to reach down into my enclosure with a tweezers trying to land that jumper, I think my next enclosure design is going to have an external jumper point.

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              • supertb1undefined
                supertb1 @jay_s_uk
                last edited by supertb1

                @jay_s_uk ! 3.4.1 fail.jpg @T3P3Tony @Phaedrux
                This is the second time this new board has done this with the latest update. I used the DWC to install Duet2and3Firmware-3.4.1.zip in my older unit and it worked fine. when I uploaded the same file using DWC in on my newer board it bricked the main board. I purchased the Duet 3 6HC on April 1 2022 from filastruder. What information can I give you to help troubleshoot this problem.
                I am able to flash the board using BOSSA with the new Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin and that worked fine.
                3.4.1 fail.jpg

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Can you please provide the results of sending M122 and M122 B# in the gcode console where # is the canbus address of your expansion boards?

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                  • supertb1undefined
                    supertb1 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by supertb1

                    @phaedrux
                    6/5/2022, 10:04:17 PM M122 B51.0
                    Diagnostics for board 51:
                    Duet EXP1HCL firmware version 3.4.1 (2022-06-01 21:14:32)
                    Bootloader ID: SAME5x bootloader version 2.4 (2021-12-10)
                    All averaging filters OK
                    Never used RAM 52288, free system stack 194 words
                    Tasks: Move(notifyWait,0.0%,152) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,88) CanAsync(notifyWait,0.0%,70) CanRecv(notifyWait,0.0%,79) CanClock(notifyWait,0.0%,72) TMC(notifyWait,34.5%,360) CLSend(notifyWait,0.0%,152) MAIN(running,63.7%,409) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30) AIN(notifyWait,1.8%,265), total 100.0%
                    Last reset 00:02:14 ago, cause: power up
                    Last software reset data not available
                    Closed loop enabled: yes, pre-error threshold: 5.00, error threshold: 10.00, encoder type rotaryQuadrature, reverse polarity: no, position 1, raw count = 0, tuning mode: 0, tuning error: 0x1, collecting data: no
                    Control loop runtime (ms): min=0.003, max=0.011, frequency (Hz): min=10870, max=17442
                    Driver 0: pos 0, 81.7 steps/mm,not tuned, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 27185, writes 23 timeouts 0, steps req 0 done 0
                    Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 0, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
                    Peak sync jitter -4/4, peak Rx sync delay 186, resyncs 0/0, no step interrupt scheduled
                    VIN voltage: min 24.3, current 24.3, max 24.4
                    V12 voltage: min 12.2, current 12.2, max 12.2
                    MCU temperature: min 23.8C, current 26.8C, max 26.8C
                    Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 44 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
                    CAN messages queued 1109, send timeouts 0, received 1220, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 37, error reg 0
                    dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 0
                    6/5/2022, 10:04:10 PM M122 B50.0
                    Diagnostics for board 50:
                    Duet EXP1HCL firmware version 3.4.1 (2022-06-01 21:14:32)
                    Bootloader ID: SAME5x bootloader version 2.4 (2021-12-10)
                    All averaging filters OK
                    Never used RAM 52288, free system stack 200 words
                    Tasks: Move(notifyWait,0.0%,152) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,88) CanAsync(notifyWait,0.0%,70) CanRecv(notifyWait,0.0%,79) CanClock(notifyWait,0.0%,72) TMC(notifyWait,34.5%,360) CLSend(notifyWait,0.0%,152) MAIN(running,63.7%,409) IDLE(ready,0.0%,30) AIN(notifyWait,1.8%,265), total 100.0%
                    Last reset 00:02:08 ago, cause: power up
                    Last software reset data not available
                    Closed loop enabled: yes, pre-error threshold: 5.00, error threshold: 10.00, encoder type rotaryQuadrature, reverse polarity: no, position 1, raw count = 0, tuning mode: 0, tuning error: 0x1, collecting data: no
                    Control loop runtime (ms): min=0.003, max=0.011, frequency (Hz): min=11538, max=17442
                    Driver 0: pos 0, 80.5 steps/mm,not tuned, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 58946, writes 23 timeouts 0, steps req 0 done 0
                    Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 0, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
                    Peak sync jitter -6/7, peak Rx sync delay 188, resyncs 0/0, no step interrupt scheduled
                    VIN voltage: min 24.3, current 24.3, max 24.4
                    V12 voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.1
                    MCU temperature: min 24.4C, current 26.4C, max 26.7C
                    Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 198 ticks ago, 0 ordering errs, loop time 0
                    CAN messages queued 1059, send timeouts 0, received 1165, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 37, error reg 0
                    dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 0
                    6/5/2022, 10:04:01 PM M122
                    === Diagnostics ===
                    RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.4.1 (2022-06-01 21:09:01) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)
                    Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TJ-6J9F2-3SD6J-9B9AT
                    Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (13 max)
                    === RTOS ===
                    Static ram: 151000
                    Dynamic ram: 96272 of which 0 recycled
                    Never used RAM 103400, free system stack 200 words
                    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,25.1%,251) ETHERNET(notifyWait,0.0%,173) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,327) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,352) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,797) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,374) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,339) TMC(notifyWait,7.9%,92) MAIN(running,66.8%,1101) IDLE(ready,0.1%,30), total 100.0%
                    Owned mutexes:
                    === Platform ===
                    Last reset 00:01:58 ago, cause: power up
                    Last software reset at 2022-06-05 16:14, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 103400, slot 2
                    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                    Error status: 0x00
                    Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                    Step timer max interval 126
                    MCU temperature: min 21.3, current 33.0, max 33.0
                    Supply voltage: min 24.2, current 24.2, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                    12V rail voltage: min 12.0, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
                    Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
                    Events: 0 queued, 0 completed
                    Driver 0: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5515, writes 14 timeouts 0
                    Driver 1: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5519, writes 11 timeouts 0
                    Driver 2: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5519, writes 11 timeouts 0
                    Driver 3: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5519, writes 11 timeouts 0
                    Driver 4: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5516, writes 14 timeouts 0
                    Driver 5: standstill, SG min 0, mspos 8, reads 5519, writes 11 timeouts 0
                    Date/time: 2022-06-05 22:04:00
                    Slowest loop: 2.61ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                    === Storage ===
                    Free file entries: 10
                    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
                    SD card longest read time 1.6ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                    === Move ===
                    DMs created 125, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                    === MainDDARing ===
                    Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                    === AuxDDARing ===
                    Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                    === Heat ===
                    Bed heaters 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamber heaters -1 -1 -1 -1, ordering errs 0
                    === GCodes ===
                    Segments left: 0
                    Movement lock held by null
                    HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                    Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                    File is idle in state(s) 0
                    USB is idle in state(s) 0
                    Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                    Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                    Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                    LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                    SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                    Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                    Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                    Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                    Code queue is empty
                    === Filament sensors ===
                    Extruder 0 sensor: no data received
                    === CAN ===
                    Messages queued 1080, received 1914, lost 0, boc 0
                    Longest wait 6ms for reply type 6018, peak Tx sync delay 6, free buffers 50 (min 49), ts 594/593/0
                    Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
                    === Network ===
                    Slowest loop: 4.56ms; fastest: 0.02ms
                    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                    • Ethernet -
                      State: active
                      Error counts: 0 0 1 0 0
                      Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      So it looks like you're all up to date on 3.4.1 now. Assuming that's only after updating with bossa.

                      Can you upload the zip file again now? Does it still produce an error? Is the only place you see the error on the PanelDue? What firmware version is the PanelDue?

                      https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.4.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.4.1.zip

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @supertb1
                        last edited by

                        @supertb1 FWIW that error "Operation 3 failed after 5 retries" comes from the IAP when it tries to update the firmware. It means that an operation to write a block of firmware to flash memory failed. My guess is that the prior Erase operation didn't fully erase the flash memory. You fixed that with the Ease jumper and Bossa.

                        The only suggestion I have is that you check that you have the latest version of the IAP file for the MB6HC in the /firmware folder on the SD card.

                        If this issue comes up more often, I will modify the IAP to restart the whole process form scratch the first time an irrecoverable error like this happens.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • supertb1undefined
                          supertb1 @dc42
                          last edited by supertb1

                          @dc42 in what release was the last "in app programmer" published?
                          How do I check what version IAP I have?

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                          • supertb1undefined
                            supertb1 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux I updated the paneldue7i to the latest version and then ran the Duet2and3Firmware-3.4.1.zip again, it worked fine this time.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @supertb1
                              last edited by

                              @supertb1 said in [3.4.1-rc2] update fail:

                              @dc42 in what release was the last "in app programmer" published?

                              In release 3.4.1, however I don;t think there were any changes between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1. If you uploaded the 3.4.1 zip file then you should already have the latest version.

                              How do I check what version IAP I have?

                              It can only be checked by date and file size at present.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • supertb1undefined
                                supertb1 @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 so it is in the .ZIP file, I'm not sure what is going on with this new board, it has been giving me issues since RC1. It always comes up with error: "Operation 3 failed after 5 retries". while my 2 year old board has never given me any troubles.

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                                • supertb1undefined
                                  supertb1 @dc42
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42 Is there a way to install the IAP separate from the .zip file for issues like this?

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @supertb1
                                    last edited by

                                    @supertb1 yes, just upload it the same way that you upload a firmware binary, and it will appear in the /firmware folder.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • supertb1undefined
                                      supertb1 @dc42
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 so you unzip the file and upload the DuetAPI.xml?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @supertb1
                                        last edited by

                                        @supertb1 said in [3.4.1-rc2] update fail:

                                        @dc42 so you unzip the file and upload the DuetAPI.xml?

                                        No. The zip file should be uploaded intact. Do not unzip it first unless you want to upload a single specific file.

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                                        • supertb1undefined
                                          supertb1 @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42
                                          I tried to update to the latest firmware and it did the same thing listed below. Is there a way to make it not do that? or would it be advisable to not update this particular board?

                                          ***FWIW that error "Operation 3 failed after 5 retries" comes from the IAP when it tries to update the firmware. It means that an operation to write a block of firmware to flash memory failed. My guess is that the prior Erase operation didn't fully erase the flash memory. You fixed that with the Ease jumper and Bossa.

                                          The only suggestion I have is that you check that you have the latest version of the IAP file for the MB6HC in the /firmware folder on the SD card.

                                          If this issue comes up more often, I will modify the IAP to restart the whole process form scratch the first time an irrecoverable error like this happens.******

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            What was the update method used this time?

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