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    • Adamfilipundefined
      Adamfilip @Adamfilip
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      @adamfilip Could the reason be the B0 Parameter should I use B1 instead? running on a Solid state Relay to control the AC power

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      • Adamfilipundefined
        Adamfilip @Adamfilip
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        @adamfilip I am using an old cheap chinese SSR SYDH1048ZD3 SSR-10DA perhaps its not fully compatible?
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        • SpoonUnitundefined
          SpoonUnit @Adamfilip
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          @adamfilip I'd bet on the banding being due to Z motion, given that it looks pretty periodical in Z. Bent lead screw perhaps and otherwise unconstrained build plate?

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          • Adamfilipundefined
            Adamfilip @SpoonUnit
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            @spoonunit my machine is like Voron 2.4 with Belted Z
            Bed is fixed, constrained to frame

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            • Adamfilipundefined
              Adamfilip @Adamfilip
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              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JyydfcOcD0&t=316s

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              • SpoonUnitundefined
                SpoonUnit @Adamfilip
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                @adamfilip There's still Z motion, but it's the head instead of the bed. That said, looks like you have linear rails for the Z motion, which ought to be great. I'd still look for Z motion first to be sure. Can you visually just watch the head as you increase and decrease Z and say there's not a jot of motion?

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                • SpoonUnitundefined
                  SpoonUnit @SpoonUnit
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                  @spoonunit Also, your SSR is typically controlling heat to the bed, not the hot end. Or is that machine different in that respect too?

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                  • Adamfilipundefined
                    Adamfilip @SpoonUnit
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                    @spoonunit yes I am using SSR to heat bed with 120v ac power

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                    • Adamfilipundefined
                      Adamfilip @SpoonUnit
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                      @spoonunit my machine uses exoslides instead of linear rail. not sure what you mean by jot of motion. things are well constrained if you are referring to backlast or slack in the motion.

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                      • 3DPMicroundefined
                        3DPMicro @Adamfilip
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                        @adamfilip if you mean the bed is bowing with "heater on" pulses you can fix a cheap indicator to the print head or there abouts and see if that's really what's happening. I have a bed slinger with glass bed/ac heater and it bows up and down a tone even if the PID is real tight. You may not be able to get the PID good enough because of the slow thermal response of all that mass. I sometimes use a simple ac rheostat (fan motor controller) to manually set the ac voltage/bed temp which eliminates any heater cycling but its finicky and needs to be improved upon

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Do a test print with the bed heater off and see if the banding disappears.

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