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    • jrwaters2undefined
      jrwaters2 @Phaedrux
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      @Phaedrux thanks for the pointer on those blowers. I'll give them a try.

      Also, I see there were questions about orientation and heat. I designed my own carriage (I'll post a picture tonight) with accessibility in mind. There is a small arm that take the blower off to the side. So it sits in its normal orientation, off to the left of any heat source. So, I should be good on both orientation and heat fronts.

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      • jrwaters2undefined
        jrwaters2 @achrn
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        @achrn On the material, that is a good question. Most of my prints are with PETG and so far that is ok.

        But I have a new spool of Parmount TPU which has not fared well in terms of adhesion and I wonder if the fans are part of it. Maybe I'll remove my fan completely and do a TPU test.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @achrn
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          @achrn The nice thing about Sunon is that you get an actual data sheet.

          http://portal.sunon.com.tw/pls/portal/sunonap.sunon_html_d_pkg.open_file?input_file_name=7264646F632F3230313530372F3231333033302F5F443035303535303230472D30305F2D325B315D2E706466

          They claim temps up to 50c. I'm not sure about angle of mounting. I would think that the maglev would be superior to ball bearing, but that's just my hunch. They make no recommendation on orientation. I've been running one at a 45 degree angle for a number of years now without issue.

          Obviously, having PWM control over the fan would be ideal. Always on wouldn't be advisable for anything but PLA. There's no risk of damage to the fan or board from running it always on though.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • jrwaters2undefined
            jrwaters2 @Phaedrux
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            @Phaedrux can't wait to try the Sunon.

            Based on what you all have said, I ordered a few Mosfets and there is a little computer repair shop near here that I'm going to talk to.

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            • jrwaters2undefined
              jrwaters2 @jrwaters2
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              @jrwaters2 Carriage.jpg Carriage Fans Removed.jpg

              Here is the carriage configuration. I think heat and angles shouldn't be a problem.

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              • jrwaters2undefined
                jrwaters2 @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux Struggling to find any Sunon 24v blowers in stock :-(. I'll keep looking. But, the blowers at digikey seem like a notch up from what I've been using so, if I can't find a 24v Sunon, I'll probably try one of these:

                https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/fans/dc-brushless-fans-bldc/217?s=N4IgjCBcpgLFoDGUBmBDANgZwKYBoQB7KAbXAFZyAmADggF0CAHAFyhAGUWAnASwDsA5iAC%2BBWADYEIZJHTZ8RUiFgAGAOxUAzDRDiN29XpUGt5Y2s1ap42GdXn9VrRdPwn2qsYkBOcvZBGEFZ2Lj4hUQJ1H1VpWXlcAmJIMi0qVVgqIwI0jOsLdUktWJz0u0cQXLtdIJDITh4BYRExEHNoYKgwZiYoKnIWoA

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                • mrehorstdmdundefined
                  mrehorstdmd @jrwaters2
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                  @jrwaters2

                  If you look at page 11 of 14 in the linked pdf file (@Phaedrux post), item 7 specifically says not to use PWM on either + or ground to control speed.

                  I recall seeing something a while back about the Sunon fans with mag-lev bearings not working well with variable speed via PWM. These fans have something called "vapo bearings".

                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @mrehorstdmd
                    last edited by

                    @mrehorstdmd And yet it works perfectly well down to about 15% speed.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • jrwaters2undefined
                      jrwaters2 @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux and @mrehorstdmd this is part of what I love about 3d printing. There is as much devil and as much detail as you could ever want . . .

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                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                        jay_s_uk @jrwaters2
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                        @jrwaters2 some sunon fans don't play well with PWM and are either on or off. I believe the feature is "auto restart" and the fan reboots if it's not spinning when it thinks it should. Essentially you need a sunon without a letter A at the end of the model number

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        • jrwaters2undefined
                          jrwaters2 @jay_s_uk
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                          @jay_s_uk that is extremely helpful - thank you! Most 24v Sunon's are out of stock. I did find one from Mellow on Ali Express that claims to be a genuine Sunon and even has information on how to tell a genuine from a fake. Its the same price as from DigiKey but they have in stock

                          https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800678887752.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.7ecd38daMmPAYm&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

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                          I was going to order from someone like DigiKey or Filastruder or Matter Hackers but that doesn't seem to be an option at the moment.

                          Interestingly, the Mellow one states "Upgrade: New fan support voltage to adjust wind speed"

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                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                            jay_s_uk @jrwaters2
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                            @jrwaters2 the mellow ones are ok as far as I'm aware.

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            • jrwaters2undefined
                              jrwaters2 @jay_s_uk
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                              @jay_s_uk thanks - I ordered one today so will see how it goes.

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