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    oliof @timoschuett
    last edited by 3 Feb 2023, 12:47

    @timoschuett The host reading output from the board is exactly what happens with host action prompts, just in a documented, known, and supported way that is already done by other firmware. Hence I suggested using that instead of inventing another scheme which would require adoption by other systems.

    <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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      benecito
      last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 08:28

      Any update on when it will / might be available?

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        chrishamm administrators @benecito
        last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 10:05

        @benecito See https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues/862

        jaysuk created this issue 6 Jun 2023, 08:20 in Duet3D/RepRapFirmware

        closed [FeatureRequest]: M591 filament monitoring option for USB control #862

        Duet software engineer

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          benecito @chrishamm
          last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:21

          @chrishamm @jay_s_uk thanks for the suggestion! Just wanted to try it out, but did not even get that far as it's status stays at "ok" even if there is no more filament in the sensor and the print is paused on a sd print.
          Also is there a limitation not documented if the filament monitor is connected to a CAN board (duet 3 mini slave)
          I get information back when sending M591 but no calibration values and the print does not pause. It works when it's connected to the mainboard.

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            jay_s_uk @benecito
            last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:23

            @benecito the filament monitor has to be on the same board as the extruder driver.
            there are some temporary limitations in place https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/RepRapFirmware/CAN_limitations

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              benecito @jay_s_uk
              last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:27

              @jay_s_uk I know about those and the extruder driver was always on the same board as the filament monitor

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                jay_s_uk @benecito
                last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:30

                @benecito looks like there are a few things that aren't reported in the OM for filament sensors, especially when over CAN-FD. https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+filament

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                  benecito @jay_s_uk
                  last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:43

                  @jay_s_uk @chrishamm To be honest I don't care so much if it's reported in the OM or not. The proposed "workaround" at https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/issues/862 does not work if the status is always "ok". Rearranging the extruders and the filament monitors to the mainboard could be done, but is not the preferred option.

                  Is there another parameter than sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status that might help to achieve the idea of using deamon.g

                  jaysuk created this issue 6 Jun 2023, 08:20 in Duet3D/RepRapFirmware

                  closed [FeatureRequest]: M591 filament monitoring option for USB control #862

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                    jay_s_uk @benecito
                    last edited by jay_s_uk 6 Jun 2023, 13:45 6 Jun 2023, 13:45

                    @benecito no, thats the point of my response, sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status is from the object model...
                    there isn't another way to query something

                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      benecito @jay_s_uk
                      last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:46

                      @jay_s_uk all right - so the conclusion is, that we can't use any filament monitor as of now?

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                        jay_s_uk @benecito
                        last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:49

                        @benecito you can use them on the mainboard but it looks as though the reporting over CAN-FD needs work. but hopefully someone like @dc42 can chime in

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          benecito @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:53

                          @jay_s_uk But that's my point - even when connected to the mainboard sensors.filamentMonitors[0].status will stay at "ok" when I run out of filament

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                            jay_s_uk @benecito
                            last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:54

                            @benecito that may be a bug then. what firmware version are you running?

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              benecito @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 13:55

                              @jay_s_uk 3.5.0 beta 3

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                                timoschuett
                                last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 12:22

                                Hi, are there any updates on how to enable filament monitoring while printing via usb? Is there a new enable mode which needs to be used?
                                Thanks, Timo

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                                  jay_s_uk @timoschuett
                                  last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 12:24

                                  @timoschuett you use S2 in M591 https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m591-configure-filament-sensing
                                  only supported in 3.5RC1 and newer

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    T3P3Tony administrators @timoschuett
                                    last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 12:26

                                    @timoschuett see the M591 documentation:
                                    https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Reference/Gcodes#m591-configure-filament-sensing

                                    The S2 parameter.

                                    www.duet3d.com

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                                      benecito @timoschuett
                                      last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 14:30

                                      @timoschuett please be aware it does not really work yet.

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                                        jay_s_uk @benecito
                                        last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 14:32

                                        @benecito have you reported any problems with it that you're having?

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          benecito @jay_s_uk
                                          last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 14:35

                                          @jay_s_uk we're in contact and diagnosing the issue yes

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