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    • rmilyardundefined
      rmilyard
      last edited by

      I have a new e3d Tool Changer using Duet 2 Wifi and duex5. I have fans wired and setup this way.

      ; Fans
      M950 F1 C"fan1"
      M950 F2 C"fan2"
      M950 F3 C"duex.fan3"
      M950 F4 C"duex.fan4"
      M950 F5 C"duex.fan5"
      M950 F6 C"duex.fan6"
      M950 F7 C"duex.fan7"
      M950 F8 C"duex.fan8"

      M106 P1 S255 H1 T70 ; T0 HE
      M106 P2 S0 ; T0 PCF
      M106 P3 S255 H2 T70 ; T1 HE
      M106 P4 S0 ; T1 PCF
      M106 P5 S255 H3 T70 ; T2 HE
      M106 P6 S0 ; T2 PCF
      M106 P7 S255 H4 T70 ; T3 HE
      M106 P8 S0 ; T3 PCF

      ;M593 F42.2 ; cancel ringing at 42.2Hz (https://forum.e3d-online.com/threads/accelerometer-and-resonance-measurements-of-the-motion-system.3445/)
      M593 P"zvdd" F42.8
      M376 H15 ; bed compensation taper

      All is wired like this video @ 26.48 mark in video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_pB3WeeLA&list=PLg-PjJGb4u-IPordfd1h-RPx3y6trxZdm&index=7

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Can you share your full config.g?

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        • rmilyardundefined
          rmilyard @Phaedrux
          last edited by Phaedrux

          @Phaedrux

          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi / Ethernet running RRF3 on E3D Tool Changer
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          
          ; General preferences
          M111 S0 						; Debugging off
          G21 							; Work in millimetres
          G90 							; Send absolute coordinates...
          M83 							; ...but relative extruder moves
          M555 P2 						; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
          M667 S1 						; Select CoreXY mode	
          
          ; Network
          M550 P"ToolChanger" 			; Set machine name
          
          M552 S1							; Enable Networking
          M586 P0 S1 						; Enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0 						; Disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0 						; Disable Telnet
          
          ; Drive direction
          M569 P0 S0 						; Drive 0 X
          M569 P1 S0 						; Drive 1 Y
          M569 P2 S1 						; Drive 2 Z
          M569 P3 S0 						; Drive 3 E0
          M569 P4 S0 						; Drive 4 E1
          M569 P5 S0 						; Drive 5 E2
          M569 P6 S0						; Drive 6 E3
          M569 P7 S0 						; Drive 7 COUPLER
          M569 P8 S0 						; Drive 8 UNUSED
          ;M569 P9 S0 					; Drive 9 See pebble extruder config at the bottom
          
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 C7 E3:4:5:6 								; Apply custom drive mapping
          M208 X-35:328.5 Y-49:243 Z0:300 C-45:360	 			; Set axis maxima & minima
          M92 X100 Y100 Z800 C91.022 E409:409:409:409				; Set steps per mm assuming x16 microstepping
          M350 E16:16:16:16 I1 									; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          M350 C16 I10											; Configure microstepping without interpolation
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 I1										; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          M566 X400 Y400 Z8 C2 E2:2:2:2							; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X35000 Y35000 Z1200 C5000 E5000:5000:5000:5000		; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X6000 Y6000 Z400 C500 E2500:2500:2500:2500			; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X1800 Y1800 Z1330 I30   							; Idle motion motors to 30%
          M906 E1000:1000:1000:1000 C500 I10     					; Idle extruder motors to 10%
          
          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 Y1 S3 											; Set X / Y endstop stall detection
          M574 C0 Z0  											; No C Z endstop
          
          ; Z probe
          M558 P8 C"zstop" H3 F360 I0 T20000 						; Set Z probe type to switch, the axes for which it is used and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P200 X0 Y0 Z0	 									; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X10:290 Y20:180 S40 								; Define mesh grid
          
          ;Stall Detection
          ;M915 X Y S3 F0 H400 R4700								; X / Y Axes
          M915 X Y S3 F0 H400 R2									; X / Y Axes
          
          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" A"Bed" T100000 B4138 C0 		; Set thermistor 
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0											; Bed heater
          M143 H0 S225 													; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 225C
          M140 H0															; Bed heater is heater 0
          
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" A"T0" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 	; Set thermistor
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1											; Extruder 0 heater
          M143 H1 S305 													; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
          
          M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" A"T1" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 	; Set thermistor
          M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2											; Extruder 0 heater
          M143 H2 S305 													; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 300C
          
          M308 S3 P"e2temp" Y"thermistor" A"T2" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 	; Set thermistor
          M950 H3 C"duex.e2heat" T3										; Extruder 0 heater
          M143 H3 S305 													; Set temperature limit for heater 3 to 300C
          
          M308 S4 P"e3temp" Y"thermistor" A"T3" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 	; Set thermistor
          M950 H4 C"duex.e3heat" T4										; Extruder 0 heater
          M143 H4 S305 													; Set temperature limit for heater 4 to 300C
          
          
          ; Tools
          M563 P0 S"T0" D0 H1 F2 					; Define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 						; Reset tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 							; Reset initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          M563 P1 S"T1" D1 H2 F4 					; Define tool 1
          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 						; Reset tool 1 axis offsets
          G10 P1 R0 S0 							; Reset initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          M563 P2 S"T2" D2 H3 F6 					; Define tool 2
          G10 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 						; Reset tool 2 axis offsets
          G10 P2 R0 S0 							; Reset initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          M563 P3 S"T3" D3 H4 F8 					; Define tool 3
          G10 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 						; Reset tool 3 axis offsets
          G10 P3 R0 S0 							; Reset initial tool 3 active and standby temperatures to 0C
          
          ; Fans
          M950 F1 C"fan1"
          M950 F2 C"fan2"
          M950 F3 C"duex.fan3"
          M950 F4 C"duex.fan4"
          M950 F5 C"duex.fan5"
          M950 F6 C"duex.fan6"
          M950 F7 C"duex.fan7"
          M950 F8 C"duex.fan8"
          
          M106 P1 S255 H1 T70				; T0 HE
          M106 P2 S0						; T0 PCF
          M106 P3 S255 H2 T70 			; T1 HE
          M106 P4 S0						; T1 PCF 
          M106 P5 S255 H3 T70 			; T2 HE 
          M106 P6 S0 						; T2 PCF
          M106 P7 S255 H4 T70				; T3 HE
          M106 P8 S0						; T3 PCF
          
          ;M593 F42.2						; cancel ringing at 42.2Hz (https://forum.e3d-online.com/threads/accelerometer-and-resonance-measurements-of-the-motion-system.3445/)
          M593 P"zvdd" F42.8 
          M376 H15						; bed compensation taper
          
          ;tool offsets
          ; !ESTIMATED! offsets for:
          ; V6-tool: X-9 Y39 Z-5
          ; Volcano-tool: X-9 Y39 Z-13.5
          ; Hemera-tool: X20 Y43.5 Z-6
          
          G10 P0 X20.00 Y43.5 Z-5.78				; T0
          G10 P1 X17.614 Y44.549 Z-5.36		   	; T1
          G10 P2 X18.603 Y43.967 Z-5.69		   	; T2
          G10 P3 X20.0 Y43.58 Z-5.80			   	; T3
          
          ;M572 D0 S0.2 							; pressure advance T0
          ;M572 D1 S0.2 							; pressure advance T1
          ;M572 D2 S0.2 							; pressure advance T2
          ;M572 D3 S0.2 							; pressure advance T3
          
          ; Pebble wiper config
          
          M569 P9 S1 D2							; Drive 9 direction | A
          
          M584 A9									; Axis to driver mapping 
          
          M208 A0:58								; Set axis software limits and min/max switch-triggering positions
          
          M350 A16 I1								; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          
          M906 A600 I5							; Set motor currents (mA) and idle percent A400
          M203 A6000								; Max speeds (mm/min)
          M201 A1200								; Max Accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M566 A360								; Max jerk (mm/min)
          
          M92 A360								; Steps/mm 
          
          M915 A S5 F0 H200 R0					; A Stall Detection
          
          M950 F9 C"^duex.pwm5" Q333				; Wipe Servo
          M106 P9 C"Wipe" 						; Wipe Servo
          
          ; End of Config
          
          M575 P1 S1 B57600						; Enable LCD
          G29 S2								    ; disable mesh
          T-1										; deselect tools
          
          M501									; load config-override.g
          
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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            You're defining your tools before you're defining the fans. This may be the cause.

            You can also send M98 P"config.g" to check for any syntax errors.

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            • rmilyardundefined
              rmilyard @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux that is the config from e3d site. Interesting. I will try that in a few. Running single color print right now.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                I'm not sure it makes a difference, but it stood out to me.

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                • rmilyardundefined
                  rmilyard @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux No errors. Didn't change anything.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Do the fans start if you manually send M106 P2 S1?

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                    • Rushmere3Dundefined
                      Rushmere3D
                      last edited by

                      Probably worth mentioning all the steps taken from the discussion from the E3D discord.

                      Such as, replacing fans and that the fans do work on the other tools, but as far as I'm aware you were testing if a metal washer between the fan and motor fixes the issue as experienced by other users. Or simply moving the fan 6-8" away from the Hemera and testing again.

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                      • rmilyardundefined
                        rmilyard @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                        M106 P2 S1

                        That starts T0 fan and it spins.

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                        • rmilyardundefined
                          rmilyard
                          last edited by

                          How would I verify if Duex 5 works? I am starting to think might be issue with board.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @rmilyard
                            last edited by

                            @rmilyard said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                            @Phaedrux said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                            M106 P2 S1

                            That starts T0 fan and it spins.

                            And for the other fans? Change P2 to match the fan number. Do the rest work?

                            If the fans work when manually sending the commands there is likely a slicer configuration issue.

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                            • rmilyardundefined
                              rmilyard @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux Nope. Fans for T1 and T3 don't work. Others 2 do.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Can you test those fans on a working fan port to see if the fans themselves work?

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                                • rmilyardundefined
                                  rmilyard
                                  last edited by

                                  @rmilyard said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                                  M106 P2 S1

                                  Did the washer thing and didn't work. Also took fan as far as I can from extruder and still not working.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @rmilyard
                                    last edited by

                                    @rmilyard said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                                    Did the washer thing and didn't work.

                                    What is the washer thing?

                                    @rmilyard said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                                    took fan as far as I can from extruder and still not working.

                                    Did you connect them to an always on fan port?

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                                    • rmilyardundefined
                                      rmilyard @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux was told to try put steel washer between fan and extruder.

                                      For wiring done way shows in René Jurack's youtube video.

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                                      • gloomyandyundefined
                                        gloomyandy @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux The "washer thing" is a possible solution to the problem described here: https://forum.e3d-online.com/threads/issue-with-print-cooling-fan-on-hemera-tool.3980/ you may recognise the author of that post!

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @rmilyard
                                          last edited by

                                          @rmilyard said in Part fans no spinning on T1 and T3 on new e3d Tool Changer:

                                          For wiring done way shows in René Jurack's youtube video.

                                          Ok, but I'm asking if the fan has been tested connected directly to voltage.

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                                          • rmilyardundefined
                                            rmilyard
                                            last edited by

                                            Work been crazy today so haven't been able to mess with this. I will try more tomorrow or weekend.

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