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    • TomasLundefined
      TomasL
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      Is all the gnd/- terminals common on Duet2.
      Thinking of Heaters, Fans etc.
      Want to reduce the amount of cabels running to the printer head/extruder assembly.

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      • gloomyandyundefined
        gloomyandy @TomasL
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        @TomasL No they are not in general any switched "highish" power output (like a heater or fan) will be switching on the low/ground side of things.

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        • TomasLundefined
          TomasL @gloomyandy
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          @gloomyandy Ok, so I cannot run a common to fans, heaters and the z-probe

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere @TomasL
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            @TomasL
            Depending on what is needed, the positive voltages can be used together.
            But then also pay attention to the cable cross-section

            (UTC+1)

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            • TomasLundefined
              TomasL @DIY-O-Sphere
              last edited by TomasL

              I cannot understand why low-side switching is used (Apart from being cheap and easy).
              I know it is easier, But High side is safer and, one get a common ground.

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @TomasL
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                @TomasL It's because the switching is done by N-channel MOSFETs, and these need to be placed after the load, and switch to ground. I don't know enough about electronics to know exactly why these are used, but there's a comparison of N Channel vs P Channel MOSFETs here: https://www.icrfq.net/n-channel-vs-p-channel-mosfet/

                I think mainly that N-channel MOSFETs are better for fast switching, so are more suitable for PWM applications such as the heaters and fans.

                Instead of a common ground, you can have a common +V? You couldn't have both, whichever way the output was switched.

                Ian

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                • infiniteloopundefined
                  infiniteloop @droftarts
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                  @droftarts

                  I think mainly that N-channel MOSFETs are better for fast switching, so are more suitable for PWM applications such as the heaters and fans.

                  I use P-channel MOSFETs a lot, but the fact remains that they dissipate much more heat - up to a magnitude more than the N-types -, so cooling becomes a major problem.

                  Instead of a common ground, you can have a common +V

                  Yeah, that's what, on the continent, British cars were famous of - or feared … 😊

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