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    • Macwolfundefined
      Macwolf
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      Hello, I have a Duet 3 XD and the "Laser, VFD..." connection is a mystery to me. How is this pin addressed? Is it an "OUT"? Unfortunately, it is not mentioned anywhere in the documentation.
      Thanks

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @Macwolf
        last edited by

        @Macwolf you can use laser or vfd as shown in the source here https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/blob/f6e475196704a19df10149f61dde4d5a2d6b5e81/src/Config/Pins_Duet3_MB6XD.h#L206

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @Macwolf
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          @Macwolf (and anyone else reading this later)

          It's in the documentation here:

          https://docs.duet3d.com/en/Duet3D_hardware/Duet_3_family/Duet_3_Mainboard_6XD_Hardware_Overview

          In the "Pin Names" section.

          www.duet3d.com

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          • Macwolfundefined
            Macwolf @T3P3Tony
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            @T3P3Tony many Thanks is OUT 6 in the documentation

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            • Macwolfundefined
              Macwolf @jay_s_uk
              last edited by

              @jay_s_uk Thanks, I didn't know that this source explained it.

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @Macwolf
                last edited by

                @Macwolf @T3P3Tony I don't think Out6 and the VFD/Laser pin is the same. The source indicates they are different, in which case the pin names section is incorrect. This may be a carry over from the 6HC which shares the VFD output with out6

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @jay_s_uk
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                  @jay_s_uk thanks, that is a good spot! You are right, its on its own pin on the 6XD.

                  @Macwolf using "vfd" is correct.

                  @droftarts - docs updated.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                  • Macwolfundefined
                    Macwolf
                    last edited by Macwolf

                    the Duet board is configured, I use a CO2 tube. A "tool" is configured, see Config, but there is a problem, when I start up the machine, the laser is active!!!
                    I use the active high input on the laser power supply.
                    Markus
                    config.g

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @Macwolf
                      last edited by

                      @Macwolf you may need to invert your signal.
                      When i ran a K40 laser (CO2 tube as well), i used the negative side of a hotend output

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • Macwolfundefined
                        Macwolf @jay_s_uk
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                        @jay_s_uk
                        M452 C"! Laser" R255 Q500;
                        no change. or how to use the negative output

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @Macwolf
                          last edited by

                          @Macwolf try wiring the laser fire pin to the negative of out0, 1 or 2 and change your config accordingly.
                          you can see more detailed wiring for the K40 here https://github.com/TeamGloomy/LPC-STM32-RRFUserConfigs/tree/master/K40 CO2 Laser - SKR 2 - ESP - paulg4h to see if that marries up with your machine

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                          • Macwolfundefined
                            Macwolf @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by

                            @jay_s_uk
                            A technical question: How much frequency does a 40W CO2 laser tube need? In your example, is the Q value 5000? Or does that not matter.
                            I am new to this area and am wondering whether I am implementing it technically correctly. There were no operating instructions included, neither with the power supply nor with the tube.

                            Markus

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                              jay_s_uk @Macwolf
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                              @Macwolf IIRC, the 5KHz came from previously available information from when people were converting the K40 away from the original controller to boards that use GRBL etc

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              • Macwolfundefined
                                Macwolf @jay_s_uk
                                last edited by Macwolf

                                @jay_s_uk
                                Out 1 is now the output for the laser, it doesn't deliver a negative signal, does it?

                                further connections are needed.

                                1. 5V for TH

                                2. ground

                                3. I simulate the cooling.

                                where exactly should I connect these cables to the power supply terminal
                                Bildschirmfoto 2025-02-07 um 15.33.21.png

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @Macwolf
                                  last edited by

                                  @Macwolf said in Laser Output:

                                  Out 1 is now the output for the laser, it doesn't deliver a negative signal, does it?

                                  OUT1 is an open-drain output, suitable for connecting to an active low input with internal pullup on the laser module.

                                  The output on the VFD/Laser connector is active high, suitable for connecting to an active high input on the laser module. It should be low when the Duet is powered on. However, when no power is supplied to the Duet you may find that it floats high enough to trigger the laser. if that happens then try connecting a 1K pulldown resistor between the output and ground.

                                  What type of control input does your laser module have?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • Macwolfundefined
                                    Macwolf @dc42
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                                    @dc42 my power supply is from the same manufacturer as the tube I have a diagram, but the description is in GermanBildschirmfoto 2025-02-09 um 16.22.00.png

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @Macwolf
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                                      @Macwolf thats the same as PSU type 1 shown in the wiring diagram on the page I linked you to earlier (https://github.com/TeamGloomy/LPC-STM32-RRFUserConfigs/tree/master/K40 CO2 Laser - SKR 2 - ESP - paulg4h) so it would be wired in the same way i.e. to heater ground

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                                      • Macwolfundefined
                                        Macwolf @jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by

                                        @jay_s_uk yes that's true, but there is no line from the contacts to the board and I don't want to try until it works

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                                          jay_s_uk @Macwolf
                                          last edited by

                                          @Macwolf to the "L" connection like the PSU type 2

                                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • Macwolfundefined
                                            Macwolf @jay_s_uk
                                            last edited by

                                            @jay_s_uk and the others there are more connections like 5v, p+ gnd ......where are these connected to the duet board?

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