Navigation

    Duet3D Logo

    Duet3D

    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order

    M558 H Little monster Delta

    Duet Hardware and wiring
    6
    31
    1629
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • RafB
      RafB last edited by

      Hello,
      Somewhat tell me why M558 H does not change any settings. I miss 0.1mm to print.

      When I go from
      M558 H0.7
      at
      M558 H0.8
      There is no change

      0_1536612801012_config.g Config.g

      [0_1536613534018_onfig.g.bak](Uploading 100%) configgbak

      0_1536613607526_retractprobe.g retractprobe.g

      0_1536613654435_deployprobe.gdeployprobe.g

      0_1536612944383_bed.g bed.g

      0_1536612839170_Capture d’écran 2018-09-09 à 21.31.22.png

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • fcwilt
        fcwilt last edited by

        Hi,

        Unless there has been a change I have not read about the H parameter sets the "dive" height.

        Assuming the probe starts above the dive height it moves quickly down to the dive height and then starts moving at the slower probing speed until the probe activates or it has moved twice the dive height.

        What is it you are trying to achieve?

        Frederick

        Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Phaedrux
          Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

          Looking at your config I'm guessing you mean the Z trigger height value from G31 P25 X0 Y20 Z0.7 ?

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

          fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • crynool
            crynool last edited by

            I wish I had such a heightmap ...

            M558 tells your printer from which height to start the probing.

            In the guides, calibrating a delta, there is a section how to measure the trigger height (G30 S-1 or something like that)

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • fcwilt
              fcwilt @Phaedrux last edited by

              @phaedrux said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

              Looking at your config I'm guessing you mean the Z trigger height value from G31 P25 X0 Y20 Z0.7 ?

              Well that would explain what he meant to do.

              Good catch.

              Frederick

              Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Redemptioner
                Redemptioner last edited by

                Your RMS is pretty good although your probe area looks rather strange

                Phaedrux 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Phaedrux
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Redemptioner last edited by

                  @redemptioner Just a guess, but I think it's a circular bed shape on a delta and one edge is cut off because it's inaccessible to the probe.

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • RafB
                    RafB last edited by

                    thank you all for trying to understand my mistakes in writing and using a delta with duet.

                    Actually I speak of G31 H0.7 which does not crush my 1st layer.

                    G31 H0.8 = 1layer 0.3mm
                    G31 H0.7 = 1layer 0.3mm

                    Yes it's delta https://tevo3dprinterstore.com/products/2017-newest-tevo-delta-printing-area-d340xh500mm-openbuilds-extrusion-smoothieware-mks-tft28-bltouch-high-speed-3d-printer-kit?variant=49755163079

                    fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • fcwilt
                      fcwilt @RafB last edited by

                      @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                      thank you all for trying to understand my mistakes in writing and using a delta with duet.

                      Actually I speak of G31 H0.7 which does not crush my 1st layer.

                      G31 H0.8 = 1layer 0.3mm
                      G31 H0.7 = 1layer 0.3mm

                      If you move down to Z=0 where is the tip of the nozzle in relation to the bed?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • dc42
                        dc42 administrators last edited by

                        The G31 command in RRF has no H parameter.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

                        Phaedrux 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Phaedrux
                          Phaedrux Moderator @dc42 last edited by

                          @dc42 said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                          The G31 command in RRF has no H parameter.

                          He's saying H, but in his config it is Z.

                          @RafB If 0.7 versus 0.8 is not enough of a difference, perhaps try using baby stepping to make adjustments until your first layer is good, and then take the baby stepping and add or subtract it to your G31 Z height value to make the change permanent.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                          fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • fcwilt
                            fcwilt @Phaedrux last edited by

                            @phaedrux said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                            @RafB If 0.7 versus 0.8 is not enough of a difference, perhaps try using baby stepping to make adjustments until your first layer is good, and then take the baby stepping and add or subtract it to your G31 Z height value to make the change permanent.

                            What does that value have to do with setting Z=0 to be just touching the bed?

                            I always obtain that condition by adjusting the H parameter in M665 for my deltas.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                            Phaedrux 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • Phaedrux
                              Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt last edited by

                              @fcwilt well it's not really clear if he's talking about M558 H or G31 Z. I'm assuming he means the trigger height of his probe affecting his first layer. But I could be wrong.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • RafB
                                RafB last edited by RafB

                                Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

                                So actually it's not M558 but G31

                                I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

                                So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

                                fcwilt Phaedrux 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • fcwilt
                                  fcwilt @RafB last edited by

                                  @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                  Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

                                  So actually it's not M556 but G31

                                  I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

                                  So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

                                  Well I may be doing it wrong but I have always adjusted the distance from nozzle to bed at Z=0 by setting the H parameter in M665 (for delta printers course).

                                  The only thing I have been able to determine about the Z setting in G31 is that it affects the generation of the heightmap.csv file.

                                  I find the documentation about G31 to be a little confusing in some areas.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Phaedrux
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @RafB last edited by Phaedrux

                                    @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                    So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

                                    Do you mean the display still shows 0.3? or you think it's still printing too high?
                                    Can you make further adjustment with baby stepping?

                                    Have you measured what the trigger height should be?

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • RafB
                                      RafB last edited by RafB

                                      Hello,

                                      Yes I followed all the procedures but rather this tutorial
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkJVgFnPaE

                                      I hope that it is not the bltouch V2 which poses problem?

                                      I just redo the procedure and I find 0.7mm

                                      Well I will try to mount 100micron per 100micron to know if G31 Z works.

                                      And reread
                                      https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi...

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • Phaedrux
                                        Phaedrux Moderator last edited by

                                        The result of your heightmap looks very good. What is the problem you are actually having? Is your first layer printing ok?

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • RafB
                                          RafB last edited by

                                          Hello,

                                          Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

                                          fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • fcwilt
                                            fcwilt @RafB last edited by

                                            @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                            Hello,

                                            Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

                                            Once again if you do G1 Z0 where does the tip of the nozzle end up in relation to the bed surface?

                                            Thanks.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • RafB
                                              RafB last edited by

                                              There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

                                              fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                              • fcwilt
                                                fcwilt @RafB last edited by

                                                @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                                There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

                                                Just to be sure - this is after doing G1 Z0?

                                                If that IS TRUE then edit config.g - find the M665 command - edit the value of the H parameter by adding 0.3 to it.

                                                See if that doesn't solve your problem.

                                                Frederick

                                                Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                                • crynool
                                                  crynool last edited by

                                                  Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

                                                  fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                                  • fcwilt
                                                    fcwilt @crynool last edited by

                                                    @crynool said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                                    Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

                                                    Right - I forgot that - I don't use config_override.g and it slipped my mind.

                                                    Thanks for the catch.

                                                    Frederick

                                                    Printers: A FT-5 with the 713 upgrade bits. A custom MarkForged style. A small Utilmaker style and a CoreXY from kits. Various hotends. Using Duets (2 and 3) running 3.4.1

                                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                    • RafB
                                                      RafB last edited by

                                                      I'll have to rest. it took me simply mounted to 0.9mm to have a first layer of 0.16mm

                                                      Thanks again to those who took the time to read my bullshit.

                                                      fcwilt 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                                      • First post
                                                        Last post
                                                      Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA