Sensorless detection for Z max

jckray

Yes, this is possible. I used this for a while on my printer but ended up switching to a limit switch as my printer is fully enclosed and when printing high temp materials the temperature inside the enclosure was affecting the stall guard sensitivity. This resulted in a lot of false triggers when homing to z max. If you want to give it a go I described how below.

In your config.g
Configure Z max endstop with stall detection via M574
Configure stall guard sensitivity etc for the Z motor driver using M915

Now you can home z with something similar to the following

M400 ; make sure everything has stopped before we make changes
G91 ; use relative positioning
G1 S1 Z9999 F1500 ; home z
G90 ; back to absolute positioning
M400 ; make sure everything has stopped before we reset the motor currents

Torro

The thing is, my Bed is very heavy and when the Motors are disabled, it falls down. So in the end Script i added a g1 z278 and then Shut off to minimize the impact. 280mm is maximum.
now, i want the printer to drive slowly to z max and when stall is detected, Motors off and M81.

I'll try to write something and post it here for check.

Thanks!

Torro

I hope that should do it:

M574 Z2 S3
M915 P2 S10 F1 R0
M913 Z40
G91
M208 Z300
G1 S1 Z300 F500
M18
M81 S1

Speeds, Motor current and the S Parameter of M915 are not final. I just guess...
I need that only when prints are finished.

Thanks!

Torro

It works almost...
the updated value for Z max works and it drives until it "crashes" softly.
but the Motors try to go further.

I tried S values from - 40 to 40.
Z current from 30 to 50%
Speed at F500 feels good, tried 700, same behaviour.

The belt does not "jump" ober the pinion.

is the S value in the Negative area more sensitive? Or the opposite?

Phaedrux

You may need to move faster to get a good stall.

fcwilt

Hi,

If you have a Z-min endstop and you have homed the Z axis you know where Z-max is and you only need to issue a move to that value.

Why is that not acceptable?

Thanks.

Frederick

Torro

@phaedrux said in Sensorless detection for Z max:

You may need to move faster to get a good stall.

that was it! thank a lot!
G1 S1 Z300 F3000

i had to reduce the acceleration as well. But now, it´s perfect.

Now, i could store it in stop.g or in the endscript from s3d. which would you prefer?

Torro

is there any other case, than a finished print, that causes to run stop.g?
I have to add a M0 in the slicer endscript to activate stop.g , correct?

What, if the endscript contains a M81 S1? Has the M0 to stand before or after the M81? i guess before, but "remebers" the duet the command after processing the stop.g?

Phaedrux

I prefer to have all my end gcode contained in stop.g and the slicer only has M0. I use multiple slicers regularly so it's easier to just modify one place than each slicer.

You can put your stall code in stop.g and then at the end have M81 S1

Torro

Ok Thanks again!