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    • CozyPundefined
      CozyP
      last edited by

      No. Only if I hit the G30 S-1 or the Bed Mesh compensation

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Did you move the print head to bed center with the nozzle just touching the bed before doing G30 S-1?

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        • CozyPundefined
          CozyP
          last edited by

          Yes, I did exactly as the post you re-directed me dictated

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            So it goes from bed center to crash into the x endstop?

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            • CozyPundefined
              CozyP
              last edited by

              Yes, exactly

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Can you post your config.g as it is now?

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                • CozyPundefined
                  CozyP
                  last edited by

                  ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sun Dec 23 2018 19:43:56 GMT+0200 (Eastern European Standard Time)

                  ; General preferences
                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                  ; Network
                  M550 P"THE PRINTER" ; Set machine name
                  M552 S1 ; Enable network
                  M587 S"Hector's House" P"2291052862" ; Configure access point. You can delete this line once connected
                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                  M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                  M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                  M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                  M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes backwards
                  M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E32 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                  M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z791.50 E1800.00 ; Set steps per mm
                  M566 X780.00 Y780.00 Z300.00 E840.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X16200.00 Y16200.00 Z420.00 E7200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z6.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X450.00 Y950.00 Z1000.00 E1389.00 I50 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                  ; Axis Limits
                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                  M208 X360 Y660 Z180 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                  ; Endstops
                  M574 Z1 S0 ; Set active low and disabled endstops
                  M574 X1 Y1 S1 ; Set active high endstops

                  ; Z-Probe
                  M558 P5 R0.4 H3 F400 T3600 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                  G31 P400 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                  M557 X0:330 Y0:660 S40 ; Define mesh grid

                  ; Heaters
                  M140 H-1 ; Disable heated bed
                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                  ; Fans
                  M106 P0 S0.5 I0 F600 H1 T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M106 P1 S0 I0 F200 H-1 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M106 P2 S0 I0 F200 H-1 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off

                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                  ; Automatic power saving
                  M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

                  ; Custom settings are not configured

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by dc42

                    You don't have the i1 parameter in the M558 command, If the sensor is a naked piezo cylinder (which is what it looks like), you must use i1 in that command as I said in my previous email, otherwise you will get the "already triggered" error.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • CozyPundefined
                      CozyP
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux Thank you for taking the time and helping me out.
                      The truth is, there is so much time lost and solution is not found.

                      If we accept the fact, that Duet is not compatible with this sensor, what are the other options available???
                      All I have is a BLclone and mechanical endstop. Bear in mind, I am seeking the easiest solution available, as I just learned G code, previous motherboard was plugNplay

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                      • CozyPundefined
                        CozyP
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 Just added I1 and the nozzle crashed to bed on mesh compensation.
                        However, it did home correctly.

                        ; Z-Probe
                        M558 P5 I1 R0.4 H3 F400 T3600 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                        G31 P400 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                        M557 X0:330 Y0:660 S40 ; Define mesh grid

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                        • CozyPundefined
                          CozyP
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 While crashing onto the bed, I got this error

                          G32 Error: Z probe was not triggered during probing move

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by dc42

                            Like I said before, test with the polarity reversed. Also test at different Z probing speeds (F parameter in the M558 command). See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe for how to test it.

                            However, a naked piezo cylinder is a very primitive type of Z probe, and reliably operation may be hard to achieve. You might possibly find that P1 in the M558 command along with i0 works better than P8 (again, try both polarities).

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Might want to trigger it by hand while testing rather than wait for it to contact the bed just in case. That way you can kill power if it doesn't trigger as expected.

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                              • CozyPundefined
                                CozyP
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 Okay, I tried P1 mode while erasing I1 , I didn't get a single error.

                                However, it crashes onto X endstop for 1sec continuously

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                                • CozyPundefined
                                  CozyP
                                  last edited by

                                  So, what else can be done??

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                                  • CozyPundefined
                                    CozyP @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux It happened now, will try to do that next time

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @CozyP
                                      last edited by

                                      @cozyp said in Piezo Z probe problems/ Seeking alternatives !!!:

                                      @dc42 Okay, I tried P1 mode while erasing I1 , I didn't get a single error.

                                      However, it crashes onto X endstop for 1sec continuously

                                      The X (not Z) endstop? That's a different problem.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • CozyPundefined
                                        CozyP
                                        last edited by

                                        So, as it seems no solution has been found, duet is incompatible with this piezo sensor. Can a normal mechanical endstop be used?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          You can use an endstop as a simple z axis endstop mounted to the frame, but it would make mesh compensation impossible, unless you did the probing manually (it asks you to job the nozzle to just touch the bed to get z0 at the probe points, which is slow but workable for smaller grids).

                                          Alternatively you can mount the endstop switch to the print head and use it as a probe, but you'd need a mount.

                                          The BLtouch clone may be a good option as well, but also need a mount.

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                                          • CozyPundefined
                                            CozyP
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux I installed the endstop with silicon heated glue to the heater block for one time.
                                            Connected endstop to Zendstop, ACTIVE HIGH, Zmin

                                            After I home Z, I hit autobed leveling and I get AGAIN problem

                                            G32
                                            Error: Z probe already triggered before probing move started.

                                            Bear in mind my frustration, I have switched to duet after 2 previous motherboards did burn, yet I have the best motherboard available and I cannot start printing.

                                            I tried both M558 P1 and M558 P5, same result.

                                            Thank you for your time and hope you understand me!

                                            ; Z-Probe
                                            M558 P1 R0.4 H4 F1200 T3600 ; Set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                                            G31 P220 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                            M557 X0:330 Y0:660 S40 ; Define mesh grid

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