Just as an update in case anyone else comes across a similar issue - I haven't gotten it totally fixed but it seems to be related to my thermistor settings for my hotend. I was using a config that I found from CNC Kitchen (he swapped a Prusa to Duet) and I am using the same heater/thermistor so I assumed it would work fine. Once I found the datasheet for the thermistor and entered the values from there it seems to be a lot better. I am going through tweaking and PID tuning now but I am relatively confident that with some tuning I can make this defect disappear. Something to look for if you run into the same problem.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@mdbergholm and just to correct myself - the issue was NOT temperature related. My layer lines are super clean now that I have my hotend dialed in, but that was not what was causing my defect. I had M376 H5 set in the probe section of my config. I copied my config from CNC kitchen since I was using all the same hardware I was trying to make it easier for myself. In the end I went through line by line and culled anything I didn't deem necessary and verified on the duet wiki any line I didn't understand. Setting M376 H0 keeps mesh compensation on for the whole print and no more issue right at 5mm height...
Again...just in case anyone else runs into it. Check fade height. Thanks @gloomyandy for suggesting it.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
Just as an update in case anyone else comes across a similar issue - I haven't gotten it totally fixed but it seems to be related to my thermistor settings for my hotend. I was using a config that I found from CNC Kitchen (he swapped a Prusa to Duet) and I am using the same heater/thermistor so I assumed it would work fine. Once I found the datasheet for the thermistor and entered the values from there it seems to be a lot better. I am going through tweaking and PID tuning now but I am relatively confident that with some tuning I can make this defect disappear. Something to look for if you run into the same problem.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@gloomyandy I am using mesh leveling with the inductive probe. I have not however set a fade height. Didn't know that was a thing. Will read up on it.
I do not have adaptive layers turned on. I am printing at 200um the whole time. The issue will happen on any part not just that one I've been printing could be a plain block. I have also printed this part on other machines without the issue showing up.
I can post up a sample of the gcode if it would be helpful. And I can def update all my firmware this is just how it arrived. I probably should get it all updated anyways.
;FLAVOR:RepRap ;TIME:10119 ;Filament used: 7.59597m ;Layer height: 0.2 ;MINX:97.941 ;MINY:83.064 ;MINZ:0.24 ;MAXX:152.06 ;MAXY:132.639 ;MAXZ:49.64 ;Exported with Cura-DuetRRF v1.2.9 plugin by Thomas Kriechbaumer ;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 5.2.2 T0 M190 S70 M104 S250 M109 S250 M82 ;absolute extrusion mode G28 ; home all G29 S1 ; load mesh offset map G92 Z0.3 ; z-offset G1 X1 Y1 Z0.45 F10000 ; move to prime position G92 E0 ; zero extruder G1 X125 Y1 E20 F1000 ; prime nozzle M83 ;relative extrusion mode G1 F2400 E-0.55 ;LAYER_COUNT:249 ;LAYER:0 M107 G1 F720 Z0.44 G0 F9600 X99.382 Y89.896 Z0.44 ;TYPE:SKIRT G1 F720 Z0.24 G1 F2400 E0.55416 G1 F900 X99.857 Y89.436 E0.02633 G1 X100.383 Y89.036 E0.02631 G1 X100.955 Y88.703 E0.02635 G1 X101.562 Y88.441 E0.02632 G1 X102.196 Y88.255 E0.0263 G1 X102.848 Y88.146 E0.02632 G1 X103.74 Y88.107 E0.03555 G1 X143.536 Y88.109 E1.58437 G1 X144.24 Y88.119 E0.02803 G1 X145.157 Y88.19 E0.03662 G1 X146.221 Y88.431 E0.04343 G1 X146.763 Y88.603 E0.02264 G1 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I had to keep cutting this shorter to get it to fit within a post... hopefully its enough to be useful. Note this is gcode with zero fan that still showed the issue. But even when running a fan I had it set to turn on at layer 2 to 15% and I watched it physically start on layer 2 as expected.
I am about to be travelling for two weeks so I appreciate all your suggestions and I will work on them when I return.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@mdbergholm and for anyone looking at this here is just a point of reference. My machine is basically the "Prusa Bear" upgrade frame with moons motors, and duet 3 electronics. Nothing out of the ordinary here. No crazy cooling or heating. All 12v.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@OwenD So on the left is 15% fan, on the right is 0% fan. The appear the same to me besides the lack of cooling causing some curling on the right side corners...and my bed offset....
and as for vase mode... Its hard to say I could have picked a better model to do this... but i think i see it there too.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@OwenD Yes - no issue with same hardware/print profiles using smoothieboard. I am currently printing a vase mode print to see if i notice a difference there. After that I will try the other part again using 0 fan. With the prints you saw I am using only 15% fan speed.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
Here is my config.g
; ##### General preferences G90 ; send absolute coordinates... M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves M550 P"Rob" ; set printer name ; ##### Network M552 S1 ; enable network M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet ; ##### 12864 Menu M918 P2 E-4 ; ##### Drives M569 P1 S0 D3 V10 ; X drive @1 M569 P2 S1 D3 V10 ; Y drive @2 M569 P0 S1 D3 V100 ; Z left drive @0 M569 P4 S0 D3 V100 ; Z right drive @4 M569 P3 S0 D3 V0 ; E drive @3 - inversed M584 X1 Y2 Z0:4 E3 ; set drive mapping M671 X-37:287 Y0:0 S10 ; define dual driven z-axis M92 X160.80 Y159.60 Z388.16 E140.00 ; set steps per mm M350 X256 Y256 Z256 E256 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z48.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) M203 X8000.00 Y8000.00 Z720.00 E7200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min) M201 X1250.00 Y1250.00 Z1250.00 E2000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2) M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1200 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout ; ##### Axis Limits M208 X0 Y-4 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima M208 X255 Y212.5 Z215 S0 ; set axis maxima ; ##### Endstops M574 X1 S1 P"io0.in" ; X endstop M574 Y1 S1 P"io1.in" ; Y endstop ; ##### Z-Probe Settings for PINDA 2 M558 P5 C"io2.in" I1 H1 F1000 T6000 A3 ; Prusa PindaV2 Endstop M574 Z1 S2 ; Set Z axis endstop, controlled by probe M557 X0:220 Y0:205 P5 ; Define mesh grid for probing M376 H5 ; Fade height 5mm ; ##### Heaters ; Bed Heater M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" B4725 C7.060000e-8 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1 M950 H0 C"out0" Q25 T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0, PWM frequency: 25Hz M307 H0 R0.262 C338.0 D10.52 S1.00 V11.8 B0 ; Bed tuning values, enable PID M140 H0 ; Bed uses Heater 0 M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C Bed ; Hotend heater M308 S1 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1 M950 H1 C"out2" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1 M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit M143 H1 S275 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 275C ; ##### Fans ; Part cooling fan M950 F0 C"out3" Q100 ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off ; ##### Tools M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0 G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C M572 D0 S0.06 ; Pressure Advance ; ##### Startup M18 XYE ; release / unlock X, Y, and E axis M501 ; use config-override (for Thermistor Parameters and other settings) G90 ; send absolute coordinates... M83 ; ... but relative extruder moves
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@OwenD I count about 25 layers on both 70c bed and 40c bed. That was my first thought was the bed was too hot. I updated my initial post with details on printer and software. Seems like a simple issue TBH just strange.
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RE: One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
@OwenD Sorry I meant to also post that I lowered my bed temps to 40c (from 70c) because any lower it wouldnt stick to the bed at all. When doing this i seemed to get quite similar results
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One issue after swapping from smoothieboard
The silence is incredible, but I am running into a strange issue that I am a bit perplexed with. I ran PID tuning for both hotend and bed, but still getting a strange defect where the first 25 layers or so are printing slower? or hotter? than the rest? They seem to have more shine and shrink slightly more indicating more heat. I have tried creating a brand new profile using Cura and Prusaslicer and to my surprise got the same result.
The hardware is basically a Prusa MK2.5 with all extruded aluminum, and Duet 3 Mini 5x
Duet Web Control 3.4.5
RRF 3.4.0
Duet Wifi Server 1.26