Haven't used my RRF printer in a few months due to it not printing as well as the Qidi. I saw this post and decided to dust off the Jubilee and load up 3.6 alpha and give it a go. I only have a few prints in but see a big improvement in print quality over the 3.5 version it replaced. So far not having an issues but have only used a single tool. Will try to do a multi color this weekend.

I guess setting the fans to thermal mode at the end of the print is a no no as the issue is now corrected. I'll chalk this up to user malfunction. Sorry all

@dc42 said in RRF 3.6.0-beta 2 tool fan controls disappear:

@edsped fans set to thermostatic mode are not intended to be controlled by the user, so they do not appear in DWC.

Yeah, I assumed, wrongly of course, that I wouldn't need to revert the fans. Was definitely a brain fart on my end. I considered deleting the post but figured I should keep it up so maybe someone else could learn from my ignorance. Thanks for the follow up.

@Surgikill said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@fcwilt said in Duet3D announces new tool board at FormNext:

@Herve_Smith

You consider the prices to be an issue?

The money I spend on hardware is dwarfed by the money I spend on filament.

Frederick

Toolboards are primarily made for tool changer setups, so multiply your cost difference by the number of toolheads. I'm currently building a tool changer, and each toolhead is going to run me close to $400. At some point, cost becomes a favor. When my toolhead alone is over double the cost of an ender 3 you have to take a step back and reevaluate.

I run RRF-36's on my toolchanger and wish I set it up that way sooner.

Have (4) paired with a Duet 3 6hc running on a toolchanger. I’m a little worried about heat with the board being covered but a o far no real issues and on board temps stay under 60C. My cover is as follows…

@edsped I'll try lowering the L value to the default .25 and test again but it may take a couple of hours.

As an aside, I pulled the cover off after a 2 1/2 hour print last night and did the finger test for temps and nothing was above luke warm. I know it's not very scientific but it helped with some of my heat concerns.

Been printing on and off for several prints and knock on wood haven't had any tramming issues. Print quality is also very much improved over 3.52. Looking forward to further improvements.

A few prints in and it seems as if adding the M400 to cancel.g addressed the issue. I guess I haven't been cancelling prints on the alpha.. Otherwise all seems to be working as expected.

@dc42 said in RRF 3.6.0-beta 2 tool fan controls disappear:

@edsped fans set to thermostatic mode are not intended to be controlled by the user, so they do not appear in DWC.

Yeah, I assumed, wrongly of course, that I wouldn't need to revert the fans. Was definitely a brain fart on my end. I considered deleting the post but figured I should keep it up so maybe someone else could learn from my ignorance. Thanks for the follow up.

I guess setting the fans to thermal mode at the end of the print is a no no as the issue is now corrected. I'll chalk this up to user malfunction. Sorry all

Quick follow up... I may have found the root of it but it doesn't exactly make sense to me...
I added the following to my "machine end g-code" remarking it out and fan control has remained visible through a few test runs.

;M106 P10 S127 T60 H1          ; turn all part cooling fans off after hotend is below 60C
;M106 P12 S127 T60 H2          ; turn all part cooling fans off after hotend is below 60C
;M106 P14 S127 T60 H3          ; turn all part cooling fans off after hotend is below 60C
;M106 P16 S127 T60 H4          ; turn all part cooling fans off after hotend is below 60C

@edsped
Config.g attached
config (2).g

With the beta 2 update I'm seeing tool fan controls disappear and the cooling fans run at 100% regardless of what is set by slicer. Restarting the printer corrects this problem for a while but after a print or two fan control is no longer available. This was not an issue with beta 1 and earlier 3.6.0 releases.

Machine: Jubilee w/4 tools attached via RRF36
Duet MB6HC
All fully updated to 3.6.0 b2

Fan controls as they should be

Fan controls after a couple of prints...

A few prints in and it seems as if adding the M400 to cancel.g addressed the issue. I guess I haven't been cancelling prints on the alpha.. Otherwise all seems to be working as expected.

I didn't have an M400 command after the tool park in my cancel.g file so that may be the culprit. I'll add it and retry but it won't be until tomorrow.

@dc42 I'm not sure what's changed between the last alpha and the current beta but the Jubilee is once again dropping tools even with the M400's...

edit: on a side note it primarily appears to happen after I cancel a print and it parks the tool. At this point I'm reverting to the alpha 5 as it's been pretty solid.

Day 3 without any tool drops so I'm going to say inserting M400 prior to tool lock/unlock macros is working. Out of curiosity, will this be addressed in the final release or will the M400 always be required? It won't matter much for me as I'll likely forget to remove it when the 3.6 is released but I am curious.

A quickie follow up, several prints, maybe 50'ish tool changes and no issues. It appears as if the M400 is helping.