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    • Haggan90undefined
      Haggan90
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I've had som major issues with lines appering on the printed part but i've manage to remove most of them with some mechanical upgrades.
      But I still have this inconsisten extrusion (what I think it is), or does anyone know what could be causing this?

      THe top layer comes out perfect though..
      0_1565945193903_inconsistent extrusion.jpg

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @Haggan90
        last edited by

        @haggan90 Is your heated bed set to bang-bang mode? If so, PID might help.

        Ian
        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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        • Haggan90undefined
          Haggan90 @deckingman
          last edited by

          @deckingman Hi, I do not have a heated bed at the moment.

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @Haggan90
            last edited by

            @haggan90 Ahh, OK. Are you using a part cooling fan and is it running at the same speed throughout the print?

            Ian
            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            • Haggan90undefined
              Haggan90 @deckingman
              last edited by

              @deckingman Yes I am, same speed all the way.

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              • themelleundefined
                themelle
                last edited by

                Had the same effect recently.
                Turned out to be a partly-blocked nozzle. Once cleaned, layers returned to look like what they used to be 😉

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                • Haggan90undefined
                  Haggan90 @themelle
                  last edited by Haggan90

                  @themelle I've tried nozzles between 0-4 - 0.8mm and same artifacts no matter what 😃
                  All were brand new as well. USing a E3D Volcano.

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @Haggan90
                    last edited by

                    @haggan90 Do you see any temperature fluctuations for the hot end? is it a nice straight line? How about your extruder - is it a Titan and maybe suffereing from the dreaded bearing issue?

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • Haggan90undefined
                      Haggan90 @deckingman
                      last edited by

                      @deckingman Well if I look at the curve in DWC it's a ery stright line, I'm using a 50W heater.
                      I got a Bondtech BMG with aproximatly 50cm of capricorn tube, so there's no slipping what so ever.

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                      • deckingmanundefined
                        deckingman @Haggan90
                        last edited by

                        @haggan90 I wasn't thinking about the curve fit as such, but rather is the temperature stable during the print or does it fluctuate?

                        Good news about the extruder - I use them too and find they are much better than the Titans I used to have (not that any of that helps you).

                        Ian
                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        • Haggan90undefined
                          Haggan90 @deckingman
                          last edited by

                          @deckingman I can't say that I see any fluctations in the temperature, but ofc it can have something to do with the temp. But I think it's such a strange behavior...

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                          • Sethipusundefined
                            Sethipus
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                            What sort of printer is that from? The first several lines appear to have the same period, which reminds me of Z-axis leadscrew wobble that I had to deal with on my original cheap cartesian printer, which had leadscrews directly hard-coupled to the stepper motors. Simply swapping out the hard links to those helical spring links made that go away on that printer. Are you seeing this effect on tall towers and whatnot, consistently?

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                            • Haggan90undefined
                              Haggan90 @Sethipus
                              last edited by

                              @sethipus Hi, I'm using a self-made printer.
                              The printer uses belts for the Z axis, so there's no wobbel on the Z axis at all.
                              I would say it's not very consistent at all.

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                              • Sethipusundefined
                                Sethipus
                                last edited by

                                Is it possible you're using some cheap filament with fairly strongly varying diameter? Maybe if it varies from, say, 1.70 to 1.76mm or whatever over its length that would make enough of a difference in extruded volume to generate these line thickness differences?

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Compare the lines to your gcode preview, do they match where the slicer has tried to hide the seam?

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                                  • Haggan90undefined
                                    Haggan90 @Sethipus
                                    last edited by

                                    @sethipus Iv'e tried several diffrent brands with same result.

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                                    • DocTruckerundefined
                                      DocTrucker
                                      last edited by DocTrucker

                                      Looks like sections where the printer has either been slowing down because of a minium layer time feature of the slicer or perhaps the oposite where there is a significant slow down in layer time.

                                      Do the bands line up with changes of geometry?

                                      Try disabling any minimum layer time slow down features on the slicer and just add more parts to slow it down instead.

                                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                                      • Haggan90undefined
                                        Haggan90 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @phaedrux no not really, same result when printing in vase mode as well.

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                                        • Haggan90undefined
                                          Haggan90 @DocTrucker
                                          last edited by

                                          @doctrucker Hi,

                                          I've tried printing in vase mode with consistent speed and still the same deflection in the layer lines.
                                          It should be said the the picture is taken in the worst angle possible, if you look at the print straight on you don't see the variations at all.

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                                          • Haggan90undefined
                                            Haggan90
                                            last edited by

                                            Could this has something to do with the fact the I have 50cm ow capricorn bowden tube?

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