3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion
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Hi Folks,
I have just acquired a second hand 3dp100 printer by 3d platforms.
I have read the other post about the 3dp1000, but I dont know if that was resolved or not.I want to upgrade the printer to the Duet Ethernet and from there to a PC. I am also going to remove the Bulldog Extruder and replace it with a Bondtech BMGX2 Extruder.
I have done a few prints on it on 1.75mm, but its just not quite performing how I want it to based on a couple of other machines that I have.
I am looking for guidance on how to convert from the RAMPS setup to a DUET setup,Here is a link to the previous thread that is locked. https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/2431/3dp-1000-upgrade-help
The person that did the post was @Concrete-Head .
I am very experienced with printer maintenance, use, service etc. What I am lacking and willing to learn is the programming side.
I have the DUET Ethernet on the way, I have the bondtech here already, tried to connect it up already but it blew a driver on the ramps board. Not sure how. The plug in driver is fine, its on the board that is the issue. I have swapped extruders and upgraded printers before with 0 issues, but this one did.Any help would be appreciated.
Brad
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@cherno-alpha Not specific to the 3DP1000 but worth having a look at the getting started page to get an understanding of how the duet config works and how to upgate a printer generically:
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Step_by_step_guide#Section_Follow_the_getting_connected_guide
This series of guides is for an ender 3 - the other end of the size spectrum but the theory is the same:
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37 -
@cherno-alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:
I have the bondtech here already, tried to connect it up already but it blew a driver on the ramps board. Not sure how.
when you did the swap did you change the stepper motor cables to match the new layout? if not you might have interconnected the phases.
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@t3p3tony
Thanks for the information. I will have a read of it, then reply with the next steps. -
@veti Yep. Prior to connecting the steppers, what I did was wired it all up, grabbed the multimeter and tested to make sure that each wire was connected all the way back to the board. I pull out the E0 connection on the ramps board and connected one end of the multimeter to there and then to the corresponding one at the stepper end. Worst thing that should have happened as far as I am aware is that the motors should have spun the other way if it was backwards. Instead it went haywire when attempting to turn the motors then stopped and became unresponsive.
Not sure if it is a voltage issue or not.
I went and bought 2 backup ramps boards, and a few other things just a stop gap should it all go pear shaped before i can get this done.
Cheers,
Brad. -
@cherno-alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:
................. Worst thing that should have happened as far as I am aware is that the motors should have spun the other way if it was backwards. ................
That's not exactly correct. You need to identify each the two phases and ensure than each pair of wires connected to each motor coil are connected to each pair of pins at either end of the connector. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors
Follow that link, then scroll down to the part about connecting stepper motors to internal drivers.
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@deckingman Yep, I did that with the multimeter on the wires out of the stepper to identify which two were in the same phase and I kept them paired together.
I was able to identify which ones were in the same phase on the board based on the A/B notations on the PCB. -
@cherno-alpha Fair enough.
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@deckingman Just checked out your blog. Insane printer and good luck at the show with the Duet 3 ( Which I just learned about on your site, so thanks for that).
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@Cherno-Alpha The newer 3D platform machines run on duet controllers. Here is a link to the firmware config files which should be reasonably similar to your setup and may give you a starting point for settings (attachment to the link below).
https://support.3dplatform.com/portal/kb/articles/workseries-firmware-update-process
Note that the axis motors on the duet units are connected via the duet servo expansion board: https://www.filastruder.com/products/duet-expansion-board
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@nhof thanks
@Cherno-Alpha also the Warwick Design + Make team upgraded theirs https://twitter.com/LizBish94/status/1136329317745614849
So it can certainly be done!
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@nhof @T3P3Tony
Thanks for the info.
I saw that the newer ones have been changed over to duet boards, the main difference with mine i think is that my x/y/z axes are steppers rather than servos.
Looking forward to getting this done as I think it will provide a much better 3d printing experience for me. Especially with a bondtech. -
@nhof ,
With the expansion board [in case i need to purchase it as well], is it the cable and expansion board, or just the cable? -
@cherno-alpha Shop page looks like you can buy it either way.
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The Duet Ethernet should be here tomorrow.
A few other items I will be doing to the printer is an enclosure for the print area. Pretty important for me as I do a lot of ABS printing (helps I make my own filament as well).
The next is the Z-Probe for mapping the bed. I had a look on this site and saw the Piezo sensors. They look to be pretty much perfect for my purposes. Mapping the 1m x 1m bed is pretty important especially if there is dips in the bed. Any one used the piezo sensors? They are mentioned on this page here. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_Z_probe . Once that or similar is installed, I will probably do 15 points on the bed to map it out. Essentially one measurement every 25cm. -
@cherno-alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:
The Duet Ethernet should be here tomorrow.
beware if you'll be using the online configurator with power loss function
https://forum.duet3d.com/post/107325 -
@bearer Is this like the Power Resume Feature?
If so, I dont use it and I am not a fan of it for two reasons.
Firstly, if you are not nearby and everything cools down, the print will lift from the bed.
Secondly, the ones that I have tried re home before commencing again. They never go back to the exact same spot and is always off just a touch.
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@cherno-alpha said in 3DP1000 Duet Ethernet Conversion:
@bearer Is this like the Power Resume Feature?
yeah. but the online config tool has a bug and renders the config useless if you enable the power loss / resume function. but if you don't plan on using that then go forth and configure
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@bearer There will be plenty of worrying when configuring it. Never really done this type of thing before, but I have figured out most of the other things with printers. I am an expert on repairing my Raise3d machines
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@bearer The Configurator code has been fixed on Github (and network has been put back at the beginning of config.g, so at least people should be able to connect to DWC), just waiting for the online configurator to be updated.
Ian
