E3D Hermes

Phaedrux

Looks like this is soon to be announced widely, but E3D unveiled some details at TCT of their upcoming extruder the Hermes.

Some details here: https://www.jayuk.org/e3d-hermes-extruder/

Sounds pretty good.

A Former User

Sweet, just in time for xmas. Maybe its time to change my wicked ways and be a good boy after all!

deckingman

Looks like a Bondtech clone to me.

dragonn

@deckingman said in E3D Hermes:

Looks like a Bondtech clone to me.

Doing dual extrusion gears isn't rocket since. It is just that Bondtech was first, but I wouldn't call now any one with makes dual extrusion gears a "clone".

Veti

@deckingman said in E3D Hermes:

Looks like a Bondtech clone to me.

bondtech with integrated hotend.

so titan aero with the titan part replaced by a bodtech.

deckingman

That was a "tongue in cheek" comment I made - hence the grin. So not to be taken seriously.

Edit .......but I I have seen one "in the flesh" so I know what it looks like .

dc42

Check out Tom's video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6U-u0wBdfQ to see what we have done with the Hermes and Duet 3.

Edkirk

I really like my Delta, will it be compatible with the Smart Effector?

Veti

@Edkirk said in E3D Hermes:

I really like my Delta, will it be compatible with the Smart Effector?

i think it would be to heavy for a delta. the whole point of a delta is to keep the printhead light.

dc42

It's too heavy for my delta. AFAIR, in the interview Sanjay gave the weight as 480g. He also said that they had gone for a more powerful motor than needed, to cater for electronics where setting accurate motor currents was difficult. That's a shame for those using Duet electronics.

Edkirk

The next best thing would be a Smart Effector with can bus. I believe there was a post about a new smart effector in the works?

Edkirk

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garyd9

I'm not sure it'd be too heavy for all delta's. There are a few direct drive deltas that use titan aero's already (or, in my case, a titan + v6 with a piezo orion shoved in between.) If this new "hermes" is within a few grams of a titan aero with standard e3d motor, the swap might be feasible.

What I'd be more interested in knowing is if Duet is using their close relationship with E3D to have some kind of strain or piezo sensor built in or on for auto-leveling.

Imagine the appeal of a single compact "unit" that has a dual geared extruder, motor, hot-end, and auto-leveling gauge all in one without having to kludge on extra parts. Yet, still using standard E3D nozzles... Oh, and the entire thing drivable with only 6 wires if using a tool board?!

Veti

399 titant aero with motor vs 480. to thats 20% more.

JoergS5

E3D Hermes is great and coupling with Duet 3 also. But I want to inform if one doesn't know that Dyze has announced interesting hotends at this TCT also with more flow than SuperVolcano - to let you know alternatives. Interesting times with interesting innovations! https://3dprint.com/254892/dyze-design-new-extruders-typhoon-and-pulsar/

bot

I'm not a fan of the whole assembly, but I like the new heatbreak and the shorter filament path.

wesc

Hermès weighs 366g, not 480g.

It does have a ridiculously oversized stepper that weighs about 260g itself. For comparison a bmg, also with 3:1 gearing with a 140g 20mm pancake works perfectly for me on my d300vs delta.

DocTrucker

@JoergS5 bugger, missed their stand. i was looking for other hotend providers!

garyd9

@wesc said in E3D Hermes:

Hermès weighs 366g, not 480g.

It does have a ridiculously oversized stepper that weighs about 260g itself. For comparison a bmg, also with 3:1 gearing with a 140g 20mm pancake works perfectly for me on my d300vs delta.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. The "Hermes" is supposed to be a stepper motor, extruder, and hot end assembly all in one. What is the weight of the BMG/motor combined with a hot end assembly?

wesc

@garyd9 It ends up being about the same for a bmg+stepper+V6. 330g iirc. The point is Hermes could be 120g less and still work.