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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by 27 Sept 2019, 02:04

    Looks like this is soon to be announced widely, but E3D unveiled some details at TCT of their upcoming extruder the Hermes.

    Some details here: https://www.jayuk.org/e3d-hermes-extruder/

    Sounds pretty good.

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      A Former User
      last edited by 27 Sept 2019, 02:23

      Sweet, just in time for xmas. Maybe its time to change my wicked ways and be a good boy after all!

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        deckingman @A Former User
        last edited by 27 Sept 2019, 06:41

        Looks like a Bondtech clone to me. 😁

        Ian
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          dragonn @deckingman
          last edited by 27 Sept 2019, 07:43

          @deckingman said in E3D Hermes:

          Looks like a Bondtech clone to me. 😁

          Doing dual extrusion gears isn't rocket since. It is just that Bondtech was first, but I wouldn't call now any one with makes dual extrusion gears a "clone".

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            Veti @deckingman
            last edited by 27 Sept 2019, 07:43

            @deckingman said in E3D Hermes:

            Looks like a Bondtech clone to me.

            bondtech with integrated hotend.

            so titan aero with the titan part replaced by a bodtech.

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              deckingman
              last edited by deckingman 27 Sept 2019, 07:56

              That was a "tongue in cheek" comment I made - hence the grin. So not to be taken seriously.

              Edit .......but I I have seen one "in the flesh" so I know what it looks like ☺ .

              Ian
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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by dc42 27 Sept 2019, 12:20

                Check out Tom's video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6U-u0wBdfQ to see what we have done with the Hermes and Duet 3.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  Edkirk
                  last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 16:56

                  I really like my Delta, will it be compatible with the Smart Effector?

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                    Veti
                    last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 17:27

                    @Edkirk said in E3D Hermes:

                    I really like my Delta, will it be compatible with the Smart Effector?

                    i think it would be to heavy for a delta. the whole point of a delta is to keep the printhead light.

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 17:37

                      It's too heavy for my delta. AFAIR, in the interview Sanjay gave the weight as 480g. He also said that they had gone for a more powerful motor than needed, to cater for electronics where setting accurate motor currents was difficult. That's a shame for those using Duet electronics.

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                        Edkirk
                        last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 17:44

                        The next best thing would be a Smart Effector with can bus. I believe there was a post about a new smart effector in the works?

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                          last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 17:47

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                            garyd9
                            last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 18:19

                            I'm not sure it'd be too heavy for all delta's. There are a few direct drive deltas that use titan aero's already (or, in my case, a titan + v6 with a piezo orion shoved in between.) If this new "hermes" is within a few grams of a titan aero with standard e3d motor, the swap might be feasible.

                            What I'd be more interested in knowing is if Duet is using their close relationship with E3D to have some kind of strain or piezo sensor built in or on for auto-leveling.

                            Imagine the appeal of a single compact "unit" that has a dual geared extruder, motor, hot-end, and auto-leveling gauge all in one without having to kludge on extra parts. Yet, still using standard E3D nozzles... Oh, and the entire thing drivable with only 6 wires if using a tool board?! 👍

                            "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                              Veti
                              last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 18:49

                              399 titant aero with motor vs 480. to thats 20% more.

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                                JoergS5
                                last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 18:49

                                E3D Hermes is great and coupling with Duet 3 also. But I want to inform if one doesn't know that Dyze has announced interesting hotends at this TCT also with more flow than SuperVolcano - to let you know alternatives. Interesting times with interesting innovations! https://3dprint.com/254892/dyze-design-new-extruders-typhoon-and-pulsar/

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                                  bot
                                  last edited by 29 Sept 2019, 20:23

                                  I'm not a fan of the whole assembly, but I like the new heatbreak and the shorter filament path.

                                  *not actually a robot

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                                    wesc
                                    last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 14:06

                                    Hermès weighs 366g, not 480g.

                                    It does have a ridiculously oversized stepper that weighs about 260g itself. For comparison a bmg, also with 3:1 gearing with a 140g 20mm pancake works perfectly for me on my d300vs delta.

                                    CroXY - Crossed Gantry Printer, Ultibots D300VS+, Custom CoreXYU

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                                      DocTrucker @JoergS5
                                      last edited by 9 Oct 2019, 15:49

                                      @JoergS5 bugger, missed their stand. i was looking for other hotend providers!

                                      Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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                                        garyd9 @wesc
                                        last edited by garyd9 10 Sept 2019, 16:41 9 Oct 2019, 16:41

                                        @wesc said in E3D Hermes:

                                        Hermès weighs 366g, not 480g.

                                        It does have a ridiculously oversized stepper that weighs about 260g itself. For comparison a bmg, also with 3:1 gearing with a 140g 20mm pancake works perfectly for me on my d300vs delta.

                                        I don't think that's a fair comparison. The "Hermes" is supposed to be a stepper motor, extruder, and hot end assembly all in one. What is the weight of the BMG/motor combined with a hot end assembly?

                                        "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                                          wesc @garyd9
                                          last edited by wesc 10 Sept 2019, 16:44 9 Oct 2019, 16:43

                                          @garyd9 It ends up being about the same for a bmg+stepper+V6. 330g iirc. The point is Hermes could be 120g less and still work.

                                          CroXY - Crossed Gantry Printer, Ultibots D300VS+, Custom CoreXYU

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