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    • AndreSundefined
      AndreS
      last edited by

      Your guess was right, the fuse is blown.
      I connected a 5x20 fuse holder with one connector at the E0 endstop GND pin and the other at termistor E1 VSSA pin, so it is electrically at the right position. Wanted not to go without fuse, because it has blown for a reason.
      Now I had temp readings again.
      Bed and extruder warm up for calibration.
      And again in the middle of calibration: heater fault. New fuse blown.
      So further investigation. Why does this happen again?
      Solution:
      I installed steel springs at the down end of the diagonal rods to reduce backlash.
      This spring shorts some solder points at the back of the connector PCB installed on top of the effector plate when probing at Z tower, and bang: fuse blown.
      I insulated the spring and backside of the PCB, put in a new fuse and the printer is running again.
      I will install an SMT fuse holder for the F1 fuse if I can source one in the right dimension. Till that happens it has to run with the external fuse.

      Thanks again,
      Andre

      P.S.:
      And thanks for your hard work on the Duet. Its a fine piece of electronic. And the firmware gets better and better.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        I'm glad to hear that the fuse protected the Duet WiFi from damage! Over the years I've heard of a number of Duet boards burning out the processor and one other component, due we believe to shorts of this nature. That is why we added the fuse.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • botundefined
          bot
          last edited by

          This attention to detail is what keeps me in the duet camp. Thanks, David et al.

          *not actually a robot

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          • Janundefined
            Jan
            last edited by

            Hi, i have the same issue (while working on exchanging a hotend …)
            My F1 measures ~100 ohm, probably this is too much.
            What type is the fuse exactly?

            Thanks and Regards,

            Jan

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              The resistance should be no more than 5 ohms. The part number is listed on the wiki. There is also a Littlefuse part that we used on the pre-production boards and is suitable.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • X4TECundefined
                X4TEC
                last edited by

                I've just gone and blown my fuse F1, found this info really helpful and quickly identified the fuse, thanks really helpful info.

                Nozzle caught on my table glass clip, which some how caused the fuse to go. I've checked the thermistor's and they read around 80K and the Hothead its about 14Ohm and bed aroundt 5/6Ohm, so no obvious shorts. Not having much fun with this 3d printer game.

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators
                  last edited by

                  Check the circuit between the heatblock and the thermistor and between the heater block and the heater cartridge. The heater cartridge could have failed in a manner that makes the heater block have VIN present on it.

                  www.duet3d.com

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                  • X4TECundefined
                    X4TEC
                    last edited by

                    @T3P3Tony:

                    Check the circuit between the heatblock and the thermistor and between the heater block and the heater cartridge. The heater cartridge could have failed in a manner that makes the heater block have VIN present on it.

                    I checked my heat block, no vin, but I did see 60Ohm from heatblock to thermistor, not sure if that sounds right.

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators
                      last edited by

                      Hmm a circuit between the heatblock and a thermistor wire is not right. To confirm can you make sure the thermistor is not plugged into the board when you test it.

                      www.duet3d.com

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                      • X4TECundefined
                        X4TEC
                        last edited by

                        @T3P3Tony:

                        Hmm a circuit between the heatblock and a thermistor wire is not right. To confirm can you make sure the thermistor is not plugged into the board when you test it.

                        Thermistor wasn't plugged in when I tested. Just ordered a replacement fuse, but before it arrives I'll disassemble the hot end as I assume thermistor must have shorted to hot end.

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators
                          last edited by

                          That appears likely.

                          www.duet3d.com

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                          • X4TECundefined
                            X4TEC
                            last edited by

                            @T3P3Tony:

                            That appears likely.

                            Many thanks, thermistor shorted to hot end, I've switched to a screw in type as this is the second issue from thermistor shorts. Replacing the fuse was a fun job even with my reasonable soldering skills.

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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators
                              last edited by

                              Great you have got to the bottom of that, and good skills on the soldering!

                              The cartridge type thermistors that e3d use on their hotends are much easier to mount.

                              www.duet3d.com

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