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    • DarylMcMundefined
      DarylMcM
      last edited by

      Referring to my pic of the sensor on the diagram, the pin on the right (large square) should be pin 1.
      If we wire the connector as it would mount on the sensor, the key would face down and ground would still be on the right with the signal on the left.
      On the Duet 2wifi control board those inputs are opposite that. That is viewing the control board with the key tab on E0 stop connector again pointing down, the ground is on the left and the signal is on the right.
      So a 1 to 1 wiring would not be what the sensor diagram is showing. It would be what the pic of the installed unit is showing if my assumptions of the wire colors are correct. Ground on the left and signal on the right.
      If by placing the wire connectors wiring end to wiring end and connecting the cable straight across, it would match the sensor diagram and the wifi control board, but that would be 1 to 3, 2 to 2 and 3 to 1 connection.
      Forgive me if I’m being a little thick here, but it has been a long 6 day week and I haven't recovered quite yet.

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      • themelleundefined
        themelle
        last edited by

        Well, as far as "what-is-what" is concerned, the docs should tell you enough.

        My approach does not rely on exact knowledge of the pin usages - what I really wanted to tell you:

        • put both connectors equally oriented side by side
        • number the pins from left to right as 1,2 and 3 respectively
        • wire pin 1 on connector 1 to pin 1 on connector 2
        • wire pin 2 on connector 1 to pin 2 on connector 2
        • wire pin 3 on connector 1 to pin 3 on connector 2

        No need to think about what the pin's usages are šŸ˜‰

        Good luck
        Andreas

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators
          last edited by

          Sorry the documentation was confusing, Ihave updated it.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet3dFilamentMonitor_RotatingMagnetVersion#Section_Wiring

          The original image you have a screen shot of shows the "top" of the board which is the opposite side from the headers.

          www.duet3d.com

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
            last edited by

            @DarylMcM updated again.

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            • DarylMcMundefined
              DarylMcM
              last edited by

              TP3Tony
              Yes, the new documentation layout makes much more sense. The output pin is now next to the 2 pin switch header. The original showed the ground next to that header.

              Now a 1 to 1 connection between the connectors makes sense as well.
              Knowing what the pin of any header is suppose to be does matter, else one might find a destroyed accessory or worse yet a very expensive control board.

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @DarylMcM
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                @DarylMcM indeed, so sorry for the confusion!

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                • 57buickundefined
                  57buick @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by

                  I just got my sensor in the mail. I still can't understand the wiring, what is the 2 pin wire lead for? Am I using both the 3 pin and the 2 pin or is it an either or thing? which do I hook up where?

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @57buick
                    last edited by

                    @57buick the 2 pin lead is to connect an external switch. this is optional, generally used where the monitor is connected after the extruder:
                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet3dFilamentMonitor_RotatingMagnetVersion#Section_After_the_extruder

                    On systems that use a bowden tube it is also possible to mount the filament monitor after the extruder. In this case filament out will not be detected until the end of the filament is in the extruder. The second two pin header on the PCB is connected a separate filament sensing switch if you want to detect filament out before the extruder, but detect movement after the extruder.

                    I have also updated the wiring diagram to show this is optional.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • 57buickundefined
                      57buick
                      last edited by

                      thanks for clarifying, one other question. Can I share the ground with my other sensors like my endstop switch and IR sensor when running thru my breakout board back to the board then split off to the various connectors? To save running extra wires to my hotend?

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @57buick
                        last edited by

                        @57buick said in Duet3D magnetic filament sensor wiring confusion:

                        thanks for clarifying, one other question. Can I share the ground with my other sensors like my endstop switch and IR sensor when running thru my breakout board back to the board then split off to the various connectors? To save running extra wires to my hotend?

                        Yes, you can share the ground connection with other 3.3V ground connections such as IR Z probe and endstop switches. Note, thermistors do not use a ground connection, they use VSSA; so you can't share a thermistor wire.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • 57buickundefined
                          57buick
                          last edited by 57buick

                          my sesnor does not appear to work? I get no data received. I also have no lights on it when powering on or anything, it looks like no LED was soldered onto it? Is this correct? @dc42 I got it from Filastruder recently

                          filament sensor.JPG

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @57buick
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                            @57buick I have replied on your other thread. Posting to multiple threads does not help.

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