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    • FuseDeepundefined
      FuseDeep
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      https://www.igus.

      co.uk/info/drive-technology-drylin-gantries?

      gclid=EAIaIQobChMI48r9pO7a5Q

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators
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        the DLE-RG-0001

        www.duet3d.com

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        • FuseDeepundefined
          FuseDeep
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          yes! sorry, should have said.

          h ttp:// shop.3 dfilap rint. com/blog/2017/08/

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
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            annoyingly igus does not provide any information about the stepper motors with encoders used on that gantry. you say you replaced them anyway? what with (model number?)

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            • FuseDeepundefined
              FuseDeep
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              These iirc:

              https://www.zappautomation.co.uk/sy57sth76-2004a-nema-23-stepper-motor.html

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
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                @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                o

                have a look at the specs of thse motors when plugged into the EMF calculator:
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                You will need to put the correct information for your machine in there

                For more info see:
                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Considerations_when_choosing_stepper_motors

                any you can try different values in the tool to see how motor properties effect your maximum speed achievable.

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                • FuseDeepundefined
                  FuseDeep
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                  I only run at 60 mm/s max as my hot end maxes out then. appreciate acceleration etc is a factor too.

                  600x600 is not a particularly big machine imo. fairly sure the gantry is just too meaty for this application.

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                  • deckingmanundefined
                    deckingman @FuseDeep
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                    @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                    I only run at 60 mm/s max as my hot end maxes out then. appreciate acceleration etc is a factor too.

                    600x600 is not a particularly big machine imo. fairly sure the gantry is just too meaty for this application.

                    At over £2k a pop I'd tend to agree. For info, my machine frame is 600 x 600. Although the build plate is 400 x 400 the gantries are 600 x 600 and I just use two 2020 extrusions for X and 4020 for Y. Others have built much bigger machines powered by Duet.

                    Ian
                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @FuseDeep
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                      @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                      These iirc:

                      https://www.zappautomation.co.uk/sy57sth76-2004a-nema-23-stepper-motor.html

                      Duet Wifi and Duet Ethernet can drive those motors easily. Use 24V power. The maximum speed will be limited to around 150mm/sec (see Tony's post), but from what you have said, that's acceptable to you.

                      Duet Maestro is a little under-powered for those motors. Duet 3 would be overkill unless you need the 6th stepper driver or the expandability.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • FuseDeepundefined
                        FuseDeep
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                        Thanks all. I will look at getting @Fusedeep running of a DUET ethernet (my friends advise against wifi and in my experience I agree). I run at 24v these days as it happens.

                        Based on the above and the specs it looks like I would not need any additional pop out/daughter boards for @Fusedeep?

                        I notice there seems to be a need for a thermistor additional board? Obviously I want to make sure I am getting all the parts I need.

                        Will make the polar machine as i reconfigure @Fusedeep.

                        BTW, int the online config tool I cannot see a polar option, delta yes, polar no. Did I miss something?

                        As mentioned the Maestro's will sort my Makergear M2s nicely by the look of it.

                        R

                        ps, the IGUS gantry comes int at 4K with all their specialist proprietary cables, end stops and the like. All gifted by IGUS!

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @FuseDeep
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                          @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                          I notice there seems to be a need for a thermistor additional board? Obviously I want to make sure I am getting all the parts I need.

                          No. You only need daughter boards if you want to use thermocouples or PT100 sensors. The more normal NTC thermistors are supported without any additional hardware.

                          Will make the polar machine as i reconfigure @Fusedeep.

                          BTW, int the online config tool I cannot see a polar option, delta yes, polar no. Did I miss something?

                          The online configuration tool is a sort of "get you started" thing. Not every kinematic option is provided for in that tool but you could select some other kinematics to get most of the configuration done for you, then just amend the resultant files to suit. But there are people using Duet with Polar kinematics so I think it is supported.

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • FuseDeepundefined
                            FuseDeep
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                            I am a little confused about the various thermistor options, or not?

                            https://www.duet3d.com/DuetEthernet

                            What would I need to do a straight swap to a 24v E3D volcano please?

                            R

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman @FuseDeep
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                              @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                              I am a little confused about the various thermistor options, or not?

                              https://www.duet3d.com/DuetEthernet

                              What would I need to do a straight swap to a 24v E3D volcano please?

                              R

                              As per my post above - If you choose to use an E3D thermistor with the Volcano, then you don't need any additional hardware. But if you choose to use and E3D PT100 or E3D type k thermocouple with your Volcano, then you'll need a daughter board.

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                              • FuseDeepundefined
                                FuseDeep @deckingman
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                                @deckingman Thanks, I posted my last post without seeing your reply.

                                I'll get moving on this I think, intend to get the screen too, I assume this will enable me to add an STL/OBJ via SD card and run a print independent of a pc?

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                                • jay_s_ukundefined
                                  jay_s_uk @FuseDeep
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                                  @FuseDeep You can run a print independent of a pc with and without a screen.
                                  The SD card in the duet itself is used to store the gcode.
                                  The screen enables you to operate the printer without needing to use a phone or pc. Of course, a PC is still required to slice the gcode.

                                  I have a screen for my printer but rarely use it as I either use a nearby pc or phone to start a print.

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  • FuseDeepundefined
                                    FuseDeep @jay_s_uk
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                                    @jay_s_uk

                                    Of course. Appreciate slicing needs sorting first.

                                    So if I got the wifi duet 2 I could drop an STL onto the onboard SD card (not necessarily the screen SD) and activate the print from a browser on my phone?

                                    Can I pause and change filament via the browser?

                                    Also, Can I connect adhoc to the DUET or do I need a hub in my studio (currently do not use a wifi hub as no landline here).

                                    R

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @FuseDeep
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                                      @FuseDeep You can either upload code directly from the slicer or upload the file through the web browser. No need to remove the SD card.
                                      You have full control via the web browser. As well as pausing etc, you can home, run macros, send gcode etc. Its very versatile.
                                      For connecting, you can either assign a static ip address and connect to it directly or you can run a router. For ease, I would go the router route so you can connect to it wirelessly.

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • FuseDeepundefined
                                        FuseDeep @jay_s_uk
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                                        @jay_s_uk

                                        Thanks, I have been just saving the sliced file to the SD card via a cable connection then unplugging and selecting the file via a touch screen. Suppose the eqv is to do it via the browser.

                                        A router won't really work will it? Or will it still be a hub just with no ADSL element? I assume.

                                        wifi connections can be, and often are torturous in my experience. that includes ad hoc etc.

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                                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                                          jay_s_uk @FuseDeep
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                                          @FuseDeep

                                          I use cura to automatically upload and start prints.

                                          A router doesn't require an internet connection to function so you'll be ok there. You're only connecting to something where everything is served locally.
                                          My wifi is ok. I am always using my phone to monitor prints. I also have a wifi camera attached to my printer to allow me to keep an eye on things.

                                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • deckingmanundefined
                                            deckingman @FuseDeep
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                                            @FuseDeep said in Hello, am new here but not a newbie as such.:

                                            @jay_s_uk
                                            ...............So if I got the wifi duet 2 I could drop an STL onto the onboard SD card (not necessarily the screen SD) and activate the print from a browser on my phone?

                                            I hope that was a typo and you meant a gcode file rather than an STL.

                                            Ian
                                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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