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    • hmmatosundefined
      hmmatos
      last edited by

      Hi
      I need some help after a lot of frustration...

      I have a Duet wifi on a Creality CR-10 with an e3d V6 and a Bondtech (direct drive, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2789326).

      I decided to put a PINDA probe but I can't do the mesh compensation is all mesh up...

      With the home on 0 x 0 (left front corner), the probe is off the bed

      home.jpg

      so I change the homez.g to

      G91                 ; relative mode
      G1 S2 Z4 F200       ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
      G90                 ; back to absolute mode
      G1 X150 Y150 F2000  ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
      G30                 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
      
      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
      ;G91                ; relative positioning
      ;G1 H2 Z2 F100      ; lift Z relative to current position
      ;G90                ; absolute positioning
      

      And it goes to the center of the bed if I do HOME Z but if is HOME ALL it goes to the front left corner and smashed against the bed ☹

      And the same every time I try to run the mesh compensation...
      How can I do this?
      I have a Y offset of 42 that do nothing, I'm very lost...

      homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g config.json config.g

      does are my config files

      Thanks

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        you did not change your homeall script

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        • hmmatosundefined
          hmmatos
          last edited by hmmatos

          ok, I have changed my HOME ALL and now it homes in the middle of the bed

          But the mesh compensation is the same, it goes to the front left corner and it stop with the error

          Error: Z probe was not triggered during probing move
          

          Captura de ecrã 2019-11-20, às 20.50.36.png

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by Veti

            change
            G31 P1000 X0 Y42 Z1.25 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            to
            G31 P1000 X0 Y-42 Z1.25 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

            your probe is infront not behind.

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            • hmmatosundefined
              hmmatos
              last edited by

              thanks @Veti

              it works, so simple, I was very stuck...

              I still have much to do...

              Captura de ecrã 2019-11-20, às 22.04.06.png

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Have you gone through this?
                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                Or read through this?
                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

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                • hmmatosundefined
                  hmmatos @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux
                  yes, but I'll do it all again today
                  I think I did something wrong in the process
                  I need to clear all and start again

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                  • hmmatosundefined
                    hmmatos
                    last edited by

                    Nop 😞

                    I'm getting no lucky

                    Captura de ecrã 2019-11-21, às 22.25.29.png

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      can you post your revised homeall?

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                      • oliofundefined
                        oliof
                        last edited by

                        I see that you are using both a z endstop for homing and the pinda probe. If the bed mesh level inconsistently too low in this setup, either your trigger height is off, or the z endstop is not positioned well.

                        I would try lowering the z endstop switch a bit (0.2mm) and check if that has a positive effect.

                        (Since I play around with different print surfaces that have different thickness on one of my printers, I printed and installed an adjustable z endstop holder. But for a single adjustment that's probably overkill)

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                        • hmmatosundefined
                          hmmatos @oliof
                          last edited by

                          @oliof I have the Z endstop connected to the board but is is not in use is not mounted on the printer.

                          I have spring steel with PEI maybe is that I'll do it without it.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti said in PINDA / Z probe / Mesh Compensation / offset / area for mesh:

                            can you post your revised homeall?

                            again please post your revised homeall

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                            • hmmatosundefined
                              hmmatos @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti I just add the line from homez.g to put the head over the centre of the bed

                              ; homeall.g
                              ; called to home all axes
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.2 on Mon Nov 11 2019 19:21:19 GMT+0000 (Hora padrão da Europa Ocidental)
                              G91                     ; relative positioning
                              G1 H2 Z2 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
                              G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                              G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                              G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                              G1 X150 Y150 F2000  	; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                              G1 H1 Z-405 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                              G90                     ; absolute positioning
                              G92 Z0                  ; set Z to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                              
                              ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                              ;G91                    ; relative positioning
                              ;G1 S2 Z2 F100          ; lift Z relative to current position
                              ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
                              
                              
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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @hmmatos
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                @hmmatos said in PINDA / Z probe / Mesh Compensation / offset / area for mesh:

                                I have the Z endstop connected to the board but is is not in use is not mounted on the printer.

                                @hmmatos said in PINDA / Z probe / Mesh Compensation / offset / area for mesh:

                                G1 X150 Y150 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                                G1 H1 Z-405 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                                G90 ; absolute positioning
                                G92 Z0 ; set Z to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                                If you're not using the Z endstop you need to change your homeall to use a G30 command to set the Z0. This would explain the offset you're seeing.

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Homing_Z_using_a_Z_probe

                                Your homeall should be

                                G91                     ; relative positioning
                                G1 H2 Z2 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                                G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                G1 X150 Y150 F2000  	; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
                                G30 ; set Z0 using the probe
                                

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                                • hmmatosundefined
                                  hmmatos @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux thanks, I'll change that and test again

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                                  • hmmatosundefined
                                    hmmatos
                                    last edited by

                                    is this a good result?

                                    25/11/2019, 19:25:39	G29
                                    180 points probed, min error -0.030, max error 0.485, mean 0.136, deviation 0.095
                                    Height map saved to file heightmap.csv
                                    

                                    is not looking good

                                    printscreen

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Your bed appears to be cupped which isn't uncommon. The question is, does mesh compensation adequately correct for the bed shape? Are you able to get a good first layer? I don't think it's too extreme for it to handle. Your first layer will likely need to be slow.

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                                      • hmmatosundefined
                                        hmmatos @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux I'm doing some testing prints with the first layer at 30 mm/s
                                        The first is looking good but is a small benchy I have to do something with a big footprint

                                        And yes I think is cupped, Creality beds are not very straight ☹

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

                                          This is a good model to test the bed with.

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                                          • hmmatosundefined
                                            hmmatos @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux thanks, I'll test with that

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