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    • Mauxxundefined
      Mauxx @JoergS5
      last edited by

      @JoergS5
      at the beginning of the video there are 10mm shifts
      SimplifyJog.jpg

      while at 5:10 minutes it is a single G1 X300 command from X0Y0, yes I was trying to draw the same line

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @Mauxx
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        @Mauxx did you make the 5:10 command with this tool also?

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        • Mauxxundefined
          Mauxx
          last edited by

          yes G1 X300

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          • JoergS5undefined
            JoergS5 @Mauxx
            last edited by JoergS5

            @Mauxx to really understand: if you press many times X +10 in jog control, it draws the line correctly, but if you put G1 X300, it draws a curve?? In the same tool and without any special actions like leaving the tool, resetting or other things?

            The Simplify3D has the Communication register, could you check it for unusual commands like resets?

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            • Mauxxundefined
              Mauxx
              last edited by Mauxx

              Exactly, you understand!!! (for communication register i'll check on monday)
              Look also central cube, 2 sides are arc, i don't know why!!!

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              • JoergS5undefined
                JoergS5 @Mauxx
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                @Mauxx can you show me what Simplify3D has in his communication window after you made the moves?

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @Mauxx
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                  @Mauxx Ok. Let's proceed on monday. I'm curious about the reason. I am sure, we will find the reason.

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                  • Mauxxundefined
                    Mauxx @JoergS5
                    last edited by

                    @JoergS5 i'll show you on monday, when i go in my "lab"

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                    • Mauxxundefined
                      Mauxx @JoergS5
                      last edited by

                      @JoergS5 I hope!!!

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                      • Mauxxundefined
                        Mauxx
                        last edited by

                        @JoergS5 everything works except this thing

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @Mauxx
                          last edited by JoergS5

                          @Mauxx I have an additional idea: (removed, this was not the reason)

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                          • Mauxxundefined
                            Mauxx
                            last edited by Mauxx

                            I try to work with 800x800 area with 0,0 at centre of tower (X-400,X400; Y-400,Y400) and this problem is in all 4 central axis
                            Probably you're right, so how i can set my config?

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                            • JoergS5undefined
                              JoergS5 @Mauxx
                              last edited by JoergS5

                              @Mauxx is the angle limit a physical limit or can you change the limit in the configuration?
                              If it's a physical limit, you could place the printer nearer to an edge and/or further away from the print bed. This should give you a bigger print area.

                              For optimal placement I cannot give a recommendation, but it's worth to search, e.g. this document: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298430720_Optimal_Placement_of_a_SCARA_Robot_-_Lab_Report

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                              • Mauxxundefined
                                Mauxx
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                                @JoergS5 Yes, max angle is physical limit
                                Sorry for my bad english...

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                                • Mauxxundefined
                                  Mauxx
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42 have you ever encountered this issue?

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                                  • Danalundefined
                                    Danal
                                    last edited by

                                    We've all focused on the stuff happening along X while Y=0.

                                    None of that explains what happens at 3:10 or so in the video, the move from X90Y220 to X60Y220 also draws an arc. An arc that falls outside the printable area as specified by M208. None of the joints are anywhere near a limit.

                                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                    • Mauxxundefined
                                      Mauxx
                                      last edited by

                                      it's really very strange
                                      thank you all for your help!!!

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                                      • JoergS5undefined
                                        JoergS5 @Danal
                                        last edited by JoergS5

                                        @Danal said in Scara Problem:

                                        We've all focused on the stuff happening along X while Y=0.

                                        None of that explains what happens at 3:10 or so in the video, the move from X90Y220 to X60Y220 also draws an arc. An arc that falls outside the printable area as specified by M208. None of the joints are anywhere near a limit.

                                        That's a valid point. Maybe multiple reasons.

                                        My ideas for things to analyze:

                                        • the communication log of Simplify3D
                                        • belt connection between steppers and Axes: maybe slipping or other problem. Slipping belt could explain curves at strange positions. => one more idea: maybe acceleration and speed too high, so belt starts slipping. You can test setting speed and acceleration lower

                                        Is it a toothed belt or a non-toothed one? If it doesn't have teeth, you can check whether the belt slips at the stepper pulley when the printer makes a curve. The pulley itself could slip also (pulley on the stepper axis). You use a method which I know as ServoBelt, this produces high tension, needs high torque and may lead to slipping pulley.

                                        @Mauxx which Duet hardware, firmware versions are you using?

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                                        • Mauxxundefined
                                          Mauxx
                                          last edited by

                                          Scara give same issue also with Arduino IDE and with RepetierHost draw a Triangle...

                                          I'm sure the belt doesn't slip, i have GT2 toothed Belt

                                          I'm using RRF Lpc on Skr V.1.3 board

                                          When printer draw arc Y motor doesn't move at all

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                                          • JoergS5undefined
                                            JoergS5 @Mauxx
                                            last edited by

                                            @Mauxx Maybe the scara code is another one than I checked, because I looked into David's code. Where did you download your firmware RRF LPC code? I will check it then.

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