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    • gnydickundefined
      gnydick @T3P3Tony
      last edited by

      @T3P3Tony if the pi has the storage and web interface, how do you use it, via serial o' USB?

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @gnydick
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        @gnydick
        SPI using the 26 pin header on the pi

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @gnydick
          last edited by

          @gnydick as @jay_s_uk points out it connects to the Duet 3 Mainboard over the 40 to 26 way ribbon cable from the Pi's GPIO header. This is to make wiring easy, we only use 8 or so of those connections to provide power and an SPI bus. You then connect to the Pi over Ethernet, Bluetooth, or by plugging in a screen.

          www.duet3d.com

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          • gnydickundefined
            gnydick @jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            @jay_s_uk I meant, how do you use it without the PI?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @gnydick
              last edited by

              @gnydick said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

              @jay_s_uk I meant, how do you use it without the PI?

              Exactly the same as you use a Duet Ethernet.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • Danalundefined
                Danal @gnydick
                last edited by Danal

                I think you got good answers above, and my stuff below is probably just a repeat.

                @gnydick said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

                Have some questions...

                1. Does the Duet3 require a Pi? If not, how do you use it without? If so, why sell it without a Pi.

                Not "required". To use stand alone: Build an SD card per the Duet3 standalone documentation and put it in the Duet. Plug in an ethernet cable. That's it.

                1. I'm currently on Duet2 wifi + duex5. I have 8 steppers: x, y, 4z, 2e, am I correct that the Duet3 plus its current only expansion board only has 9 steppers? Are there going to be larger expansion boards or is the plan to just have people use multiple expansion boards?

                Not "larger" expansions, instead multiple expansions. They daisy chain on a single CAN bus cable. Have as many as you want. An expander that's currently lashed (somewhat roughly) to the side of a prototype multi-tool printer is shown below. The circle shows the CAN cables. One back to the main board. One (empty at the moment) to the 'next' expander.

                IMG_0132_LI.jpg

                1. I have a pretty good understanding of duet2, everything 3d printer related, but not programming pins, or anything else more esoteric. What will the learning curve be for Duet3?

                I made the transition back when the documentation was not as good as it is now. In particular, I would have killed for a working example of ANY printer. Therefore, here is a running config.g for a CoreXY toolchanger. Read a little, and look at this a little, and it is not too hard. It is different, and that takes a little time. To me, it is MUCH more logical after you grasp it. And will therefore be easier in the long run.

                config .g

                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @Danal
                  last edited by dc42

                  @Danal said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

                  think you got good answers above, and my stuff below is probably just a repeat.
                  @gnydick said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

                  Have some questions...

                  Does the Duet3 require a Pi? If not, how do you use it without? If so, why sell it without a Pi.

                  Not "required". To use stand alone: Plug in an ethernet cable. That's it.

                  Almost, you also need to populate an SDHC card with the appropriate folders and files and put it in the SD card socket of the Duet. With Duet 3 we supply an SD card for the Pi, but not for the Duet (because you don't need a SD card in the Duet 3 when it is connected to a Pi).

                  The files you need on the SD card for standalone mode are exactly the same as for a Duet Ethernet, except that instead of file iap4e.bin you need Duet3iap_sd_MB6HC.bin (in /sys).

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User
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                    Slightly OT, but as the Pi image has a FAT /boot partition it could possibly contain the default standalone config and files so the same card could maybe cover both use cases.

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                    • gnydickundefined
                      gnydick @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 so, without the Pi, you still get a web interface?

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                      • gnydickundefined
                        gnydick @Danal
                        last edited by

                        @Danal thank you for the thoroughness

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @gnydick
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                          @gnydick said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

                          @dc42 so, without the Pi, you still get a web interface?

                          Yes

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @A Former User
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                            @bearer said in Duet3 setup requirements for 3D printer:

                            Slightly OT, but as the Pi image has a FAT /boot partition it could possibly contain the default standalone config and files so the same card could maybe cover both use cases.

                            That's really clever.

                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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