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    • droftartsundefined
      droftarts administrators
      last edited by

      Try defining those connected to main board without 0. on front.

      Ian

      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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      • HWWundefined
        HWW @droftarts
        last edited by HWW

        @droftarts No change in the result from removing the explicit board number, I also went ahead and threw in my other test of assigning all the Z motors to the Y axis to confirm that entering the mapping into the console was changing things and you can see the strange result from that as well. The Y axis is mapped correctly but both Z and E are incorrect.

        2019-12-21 14.31.52sml.jpg

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        • droftartsundefined
          droftarts administrators
          last edited by

          Can you try mapping all drives individually in order, eg
          M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 U0.3 V0.4 W0.5 A1.0 B1.1 C1.2 P9
          And see what it reports?

          The only other thing I notice is that in the RRF 3 overview notes, a comma is used to delimit the second board. Might be a typo, though? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_M584

          Ian

          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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          • HWWundefined
            HWW @droftarts
            last edited by HWW

            @droftarts Assigning them all individually like that they mapped correctly, the drive map report matched the mapping command.

            I played around with it a bit more and I think whats happening has something to do with having multiple motors on two axis

            I tried M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.3 U0.4 V0.5 W1.0 A1.1 B1.2 P8 and that mapped correctly

            However when I tried M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.3:0.4 U0.5 V1.0 W1.1 A1.2 P7

            the resulting map was X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.1:0.2 U0.5 V1.0 W1.1 A1.2

            Also in all cases the extruders were mapped to 0:0 and 0:1 which I think is a default value since no E parameter was in the mapping

            2019-12-21 17.52.40sml.jpg

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            • HWWundefined
              HWW
              last edited by

              Yeah look at this one
              2019-12-21 17.59.07sml.jpg

              M584 X0.0:0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 E1.0:1.1
              

              results in a reported drive map of
              X0.0:0.1 Y0.0:0.1 Z0.0:0.1 E0.0:0.1

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              • Danalundefined
                Danal
                last edited by Danal

                Yep. I just tried two axis with two motors each. Reproduced the issue.

                12/21/2019, 7:02:51 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.3:0.4
                12/21/2019, 7:02:58 PM	M584
                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.1:0.3 U0.2 E0.1:0.3, 4 axes visible
                

                Z should be 4 5, instead it is repeat of Y's 1 3. E is wrong as well, again, a repeat of 1 3

                Interestingly enough, it is OK to have multiple motors on Z and E. This is my day-to-day configuration on a tool changer:

                12/21/2019, 7:06:11 PM	M584
                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators
                  last edited by

                  So, bug? One for @dc42? Thanks for getting to the bottom of it!

                  Ian

                  Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                  • Danalundefined
                    Danal
                    last edited by Danal

                    Certainly looks like a bug.

                    And I'm running what I believe to be the very latest:

                    Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
                    DSF Version: 1.1.0.5
                    Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 3.0beta12+1 (2019-12-02b2)
                    

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                    • Danalundefined
                      Danal
                      last edited by

                      Same thing happens if X has more than one motor, it "overlays" all later multimotor axis mappings.

                      12/21/2019, 7:12:02 PM	M584 X0.0:0.3 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                      12/21/2019, 7:12:08 PM	M584
                      Driver assignments: X0.0:0.3 Y0.1 Z0.0:0.3 U0.2 E0.0:0.3, 4 axes visible
                      

                      TRIPLE motor Z seems to work fine:

                      12/21/2019, 7:13:29 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                      12/21/2019, 7:13:42 PM	M584
                      Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.3:0.4, 4 axes visible
                      

                      However, DUAL motor Z overlays E:

                      12/21/2019, 7:14:39 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                      12/21/2019, 7:14:45 PM	M584
                      Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.4:0.5, 4 axes visible
                      

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                      • HWWundefined
                        HWW @Danal
                        last edited by HWW

                        @Danal Triple motor Z also overwrote the E mapping

                        My best guess is that whatever values are getting used for multi motor mapping are not reset or filled or something between cycles of the code loop running

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                        • Danalundefined
                          Danal
                          last edited by Danal

                          Yep, and it looks like it is the "single line parser" loop. Specifying each axis on a separate line yields proper results. For example, with this sequence, E never gets overlaid:

                          12/21/2019, 7:17:40 PM	M584
                          Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                          12/21/2019, 7:17:45 PM	M584 X0.0
                          12/21/2019, 7:17:58 PM	M584 Y0.1:0.3
                          12/21/2019, 7:18:16 PM	M584
                          Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                          12/21/2019, 7:18:34 PM	M584 Z0.4:0.5
                          12/21/2019, 7:18:41 PM	M584
                          Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                          12/21/2019, 7:18:54 PM	M584 E1.0:1.1
                          12/21/2019, 7:18:59 PM	M584
                          Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                          

                          This also provides a bypass until this is fixed.

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                          • HWWundefined
                            HWW @Danal
                            last edited by

                            @Danal A workaround solution until things get a proper fix!! Fantastic. I was just about to ask what your day to day config looks like since in the example from before it E got overwritten but you had a working readout from your day to day.

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                            • Danalundefined
                              Danal @HWW
                              last edited by

                              @HWW said in Y axis moving when trying to move Z axis with multiple Z motors:

                              @Danal Triple motor Z also overwrote the E mapping

                              You are correct!!!

                              And I just looked in my actual config.g, and I'd separated the extruders because this is a toolchanger and I'm adding tools one at a time:

                              ; Axis to driver mapping
                              M584 X0 Y1 U2 Z3:4:5        ; X and Y for CoreXY.  U for toolchanger lock. Z has three drivers for kinematic bed suspension. 
                              M584 E1.0:1.1               ; Extruders for four tools. 
                              

                              Man, a bullet dodged a few weeks back. That would have been VERY frustrating when I was trying to figure out a bunch of other stuff as well...!

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                              • HWWundefined
                                HWW
                                last edited by

                                I have added this as an issue to the github tracker
                                https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/issues/345

                                HWW-GS created this issue in dc42/RepRapFirmware

                                closed M584 Multi Axis/Motor Mapping Error #345

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @HWW
                                  last edited by

                                  @HWW said in Y axis moving when trying to move Z axis with multiple Z motors:

                                  I have added this as an issue to the github tracker
                                  https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/issues/345

                                  It's probably a DSF issue not a RRF issue, because it doesn't happen when the Duet 3 is run in standalone mode.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    It was an issue in RRF code that is only used when communicating with the SBC. Will be fixed in RRF3.0RC2.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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