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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @HWW
      last edited by

      @HWW Just another suggestion but does it make any difference if you omit the H2 parameter? You'll need to use M564 H0 to allow moves prior to homing.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • HWWundefined
        HWW @droftarts
        last edited by HWW

        @droftarts Both the main board with M115 and the expansion with M115 B1 report back with Firmware 3.0RC1

        @deckingman Using M564 H0 and omiting the H2 parameter from the G1 commands results in the same movements, so no difference there.

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        • HWWundefined
          HWW
          last edited by HWW

          Dont know why I didnt think of this before using the M584 command on its own spits out the drive mapping in the console. I never got around to actually testing the extruders but looks like those are mapped wrong as well. You can see in this photo I tried entering the M584 with the mapping command as well and the report after is also screwed up.

          2019-12-21 14.18.50Sml.jpg

          The first info from the M584 shows 0.0 and 0.1 mapped into the first two spots on the z axis followed by 0.5 and 0.4 this is using the last config line I was using which was "M584 X1.0 Y0.0:0.1 Z0.5:0.4:0.3:0.2 E1.1:1.2"

          Then in the console I tried entering my original config of "M584 X1.0 Y0.0:0.1 Z0.2:0.3:0.4:0.5 E1.1:1.2" and it again results in 0.0 and 0.1 in the first two spots with 0.2 and 0.3 filling the last two.

          And in both cases the extruders are mapped to 0.0 and 0.1 which I never noticed before as well

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          • droftartsundefined
            droftarts administrators
            last edited by

            Try defining those connected to main board without 0. on front.

            Ian

            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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            • HWWundefined
              HWW @droftarts
              last edited by HWW

              @droftarts No change in the result from removing the explicit board number, I also went ahead and threw in my other test of assigning all the Z motors to the Y axis to confirm that entering the mapping into the console was changing things and you can see the strange result from that as well. The Y axis is mapped correctly but both Z and E are incorrect.

              2019-12-21 14.31.52sml.jpg

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators
                last edited by

                Can you try mapping all drives individually in order, eg
                M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 U0.3 V0.4 W0.5 A1.0 B1.1 C1.2 P9
                And see what it reports?

                The only other thing I notice is that in the RRF 3 overview notes, a comma is used to delimit the second board. Might be a typo, though? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_M584

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • HWWundefined
                  HWW @droftarts
                  last edited by HWW

                  @droftarts Assigning them all individually like that they mapped correctly, the drive map report matched the mapping command.

                  I played around with it a bit more and I think whats happening has something to do with having multiple motors on two axis

                  I tried M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.3 U0.4 V0.5 W1.0 A1.1 B1.2 P8 and that mapped correctly

                  However when I tried M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.3:0.4 U0.5 V1.0 W1.1 A1.2 P7

                  the resulting map was X0.0 Y0.1:0.2 Z0.1:0.2 U0.5 V1.0 W1.1 A1.2

                  Also in all cases the extruders were mapped to 0:0 and 0:1 which I think is a default value since no E parameter was in the mapping

                  2019-12-21 17.52.40sml.jpg

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                  • HWWundefined
                    HWW
                    last edited by

                    Yeah look at this one
                    2019-12-21 17.59.07sml.jpg

                    M584 X0.0:0.1 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 E1.0:1.1
                    

                    results in a reported drive map of
                    X0.0:0.1 Y0.0:0.1 Z0.0:0.1 E0.0:0.1

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                    • Danalundefined
                      Danal
                      last edited by Danal

                      Yep. I just tried two axis with two motors each. Reproduced the issue.

                      12/21/2019, 7:02:51 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.3:0.4
                      12/21/2019, 7:02:58 PM	M584
                      Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.1:0.3 U0.2 E0.1:0.3, 4 axes visible
                      

                      Z should be 4 5, instead it is repeat of Y's 1 3. E is wrong as well, again, a repeat of 1 3

                      Interestingly enough, it is OK to have multiple motors on Z and E. This is my day-to-day configuration on a tool changer:

                      12/21/2019, 7:06:11 PM	M584
                      Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                      

                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators
                        last edited by

                        So, bug? One for @dc42? Thanks for getting to the bottom of it!

                        Ian

                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                        • Danalundefined
                          Danal
                          last edited by Danal

                          Certainly looks like a bug.

                          And I'm running what I believe to be the very latest:

                          Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
                          DSF Version: 1.1.0.5
                          Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC v0.6 or 1.0 3.0beta12+1 (2019-12-02b2)
                          

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                          • Danalundefined
                            Danal
                            last edited by

                            Same thing happens if X has more than one motor, it "overlays" all later multimotor axis mappings.

                            12/21/2019, 7:12:02 PM	M584 X0.0:0.3 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                            12/21/2019, 7:12:08 PM	M584
                            Driver assignments: X0.0:0.3 Y0.1 Z0.0:0.3 U0.2 E0.0:0.3, 4 axes visible
                            

                            TRIPLE motor Z seems to work fine:

                            12/21/2019, 7:13:29 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                            12/21/2019, 7:13:42 PM	M584
                            Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.3:0.4, 4 axes visible
                            

                            However, DUAL motor Z overlays E:

                            12/21/2019, 7:14:39 PM	M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1
                            12/21/2019, 7:14:45 PM	M584
                            Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E0.4:0.5, 4 axes visible
                            

                            Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                            • HWWundefined
                              HWW @Danal
                              last edited by HWW

                              @Danal Triple motor Z also overwrote the E mapping

                              My best guess is that whatever values are getting used for multi motor mapping are not reset or filled or something between cycles of the code loop running

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                              • Danalundefined
                                Danal
                                last edited by Danal

                                Yep, and it looks like it is the "single line parser" loop. Specifying each axis on a separate line yields proper results. For example, with this sequence, E never gets overlaid:

                                12/21/2019, 7:17:40 PM	M584
                                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                                12/21/2019, 7:17:45 PM	M584 X0.0
                                12/21/2019, 7:17:58 PM	M584 Y0.1:0.3
                                12/21/2019, 7:18:16 PM	M584
                                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.3:0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                                12/21/2019, 7:18:34 PM	M584 Z0.4:0.5
                                12/21/2019, 7:18:41 PM	M584
                                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                                12/21/2019, 7:18:54 PM	M584 E1.0:1.1
                                12/21/2019, 7:18:59 PM	M584
                                Driver assignments: X0.0 Y0.1:0.3 Z0.4:0.5 U0.2 E1.0:1.1, 4 axes visible
                                

                                This also provides a bypass until this is fixed.

                                Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                • HWWundefined
                                  HWW @Danal
                                  last edited by

                                  @Danal A workaround solution until things get a proper fix!! Fantastic. I was just about to ask what your day to day config looks like since in the example from before it E got overwritten but you had a working readout from your day to day.

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                                  • Danalundefined
                                    Danal @HWW
                                    last edited by

                                    @HWW said in Y axis moving when trying to move Z axis with multiple Z motors:

                                    @Danal Triple motor Z also overwrote the E mapping

                                    You are correct!!!

                                    And I just looked in my actual config.g, and I'd separated the extruders because this is a toolchanger and I'm adding tools one at a time:

                                    ; Axis to driver mapping
                                    M584 X0 Y1 U2 Z3:4:5        ; X and Y for CoreXY.  U for toolchanger lock. Z has three drivers for kinematic bed suspension. 
                                    M584 E1.0:1.1               ; Extruders for four tools. 
                                    

                                    Man, a bullet dodged a few weeks back. That would have been VERY frustrating when I was trying to figure out a bunch of other stuff as well...!

                                    Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                                    • HWWundefined
                                      HWW
                                      last edited by

                                      I have added this as an issue to the github tracker
                                      https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/issues/345

                                      HWW-GS created this issue in dc42/RepRapFirmware

                                      closed M584 Multi Axis/Motor Mapping Error #345

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @HWW
                                        last edited by

                                        @HWW said in Y axis moving when trying to move Z axis with multiple Z motors:

                                        I have added this as an issue to the github tracker
                                        https://github.com/dc42/RepRapFirmware/issues/345

                                        It's probably a DSF issue not a RRF issue, because it doesn't happen when the Duet 3 is run in standalone mode.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          It was an issue in RRF code that is only used when communicating with the SBC. Will be fixed in RRF3.0RC2.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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