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    • Quadcellsundefined
      Quadcells
      last edited by Quadcells

      Culd someone help me with this. This seems to happen every time now :
      M122
      === Diagnostics ===
      RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.04 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
      Board ID: 08DGM-95BLL-N6PSS-6J9F8-3S86T-91T7L
      Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (11 max)
      === RTOS ===
      Static ram: 25680
      Dynamic ram: 92228 of which 380 recycled
      Exception stack ram used: 484
      Never used ram: 12300
      Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,808) MAIN(running,348) IDLE(ready,200)
      Owned mutexes:
      === Platform ===
      Last reset 24:19:26 ago, cause: software
      Last software reset at 2019-12-21 11:35, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 12328 bytes (slot 1)
      Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
      Error status: 8
      Free file entries: 10
      SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
      SD card longest block write time: 74.1ms, max retries 0
      MCU temperature: min 31.0, current 37.4, max 46.2
      Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.2, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
      Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
      Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
      Date/time: 2019-12-22 11:55:11
      Cache data hit count 4294967295
      Slowest loop: 70.53ms; fastest: 0.06ms
      I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
      === Move ===
      Hiccups: 26, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 50, MaxWait: 42013005ms
      Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
      === DDARing ===
      Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
      === Heat ===
      Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
      Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.2
      Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.7
      === GCodes ===
      Segments left: 0
      Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
      Movement lock held by null
      http is idle in state(s) 0
      telnet is idle in state(s) 0
      file is idle in state(s) 0
      serial is idle in state(s) 0
      aux is idle in state(s) 0
      daemon is idle in state(s) 0
      queue is idle in state(s) 0
      autopause is idle in state(s) 0
      Code queue is empty.
      === Network ===
      Slowest loop: 129.72ms; fastest: 0.00ms
      Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
      HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

      • WiFi -
        Network state is running
        WiFi module is connected to access point
        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
        WiFi firmware version 1.23
        WiFi MAC address a0:20:a6:2f:c2:a2
        WiFi Vcc 3.34, reset reason Turned on by main processor
        WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 24120
        WiFi IP address 192.168.39.146
        WiFi signal strength -45dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

      /quadcells

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      • Quadcellsundefined
        Quadcells @Quadcells
        last edited by

        @Quadcells here is my tuned results:
        M307 H1
        Heater 1 model: gain 378.5, time constant 248.3, dead time 2.7, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 24.2, mode PID, inverted no, frequency default
        Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P43.4, I1.675, D82.0
        Computed PID parameters for load change: P43.

        /quadcells

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        • Quadcellsundefined
          Quadcells
          last edited by

          I also have a silicone sock on the hotend block which id s E3D plated copper block with a Genuine E3D High Precision Heater Cartridge - 24V-30W . have the same setup on my Railcore without any heat faults.

          /quadcells

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @Quadcells
            last edited by

            @Quadcells said in Constant heat faults with my delta:

            M307 H1

            did you actually save the results?

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            • Quadcellsundefined
              Quadcells @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti M500

              /quadcells

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Is there an M501 at the end of config.g to load them at startup?

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                • Quadcellsundefined
                  Quadcells @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Quadcells

                  @Phaedrux Yes I have M501 at the bottom of my config.g code. and it is not commented out.

                  /quadcells

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    What is the exact heater fault error message?

                    What does the temp graph look like?

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                    • Quadcellsundefined
                      Quadcells
                      last edited by

                      after constant re-tuning and and just trying to run up the temp with no luck, I re checked the wire and they were fine. I checked the heater with my multi-meter and I was getting a erroneous readings so I replaced the E3D High Precision heater with a E3d 40 watt heater cartridge, re-ran the heater tune and M500. so far all is well. Oh I also ran the temp up to 270 to seal the nozzle.

                      /quadcells

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                      • Quadcellsundefined
                        Quadcells
                        last edited by

                        Spoke to soon, Happen again.
                        M122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.04 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                        Board ID: 08DGM-95BLL-N6PSS-6J9F8-3S86T-91T7L
                        Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (10 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 25680
                        Dynamic ram: 92228 of which 900 recycled
                        Exception stack ram used: 476
                        Never used ram: 11788
                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,676) HEAT(blocked,800) MAIN(running,348) IDLE(ready,200)
                        Owned mutexes:
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 06:01:05 ago, cause: power up
                        Last software reset at 2019-12-21 11:35, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 12328 bytes (slot 1)
                        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                        Error status: 8
                        Free file entries: 10
                        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest block write time: 3.4ms, max retries 0
                        MCU temperature: min 13.7, current 32.8, max 45.7
                        Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.2, max 24.5, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max 0/1023
                        Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max 0/278
                        Date/time: 2019-12-24 09:54:30
                        Cache data hit count 4294967295
                        Slowest loop: 52.55ms; fastest: 0.06ms
                        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                        === Move ===
                        Hiccups: 9, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 55, MaxWait: 3280877ms
                        Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                        === DDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.1
                        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 0
                        Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                        Movement lock held by null
                        http is idle in state(s) 0
                        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        file is idle in state(s) 0
                        serial is idle in state(s) 0
                        aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty.
                        === Network ===
                        Slowest loop: 15.53ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                        • WiFi -
                          Network state is running
                          WiFi module is connected to access point
                          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                          WiFi firmware version 1.23
                          WiFi MAC address a0:20:a6:2f:c2:a2
                          WiFi Vcc 3.34, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25824
                          WiFi IP address 192.168.39.146
                          WiFi signal strength -49dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

                        /quadcells

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                        • Quadcellsundefined
                          Quadcells
                          last edited by

                          can I temperately stop this faults

                          /quadcells

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            What is the exact heater fault error message?
                            What does the temp graph look like?

                            you never answered those questions.

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                            • Quadcellsundefined
                              Quadcells @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti Sorry, temp was rising too slowly.heat fault.png

                              /quadcells

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                              • deckingmanundefined
                                deckingman @Quadcells
                                last edited by

                                @Quadcells That looks all the world like a genuine heater fault. If you've changed the heater cartridge then it can only be the wiring - possibly a bad crimp which makes or breaks connection as the head moves around. Unless you have a powerful part cooling fan which is on and blowing over the nozzle.

                                Ian
                                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                • Quadcellsundefined
                                  Quadcells @deckingman
                                  last edited by

                                  @deckingman Thanks, I'll take a look at the connections on the effector 6 pin connector.

                                  /quadcells

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                                  • Quadcellsundefined
                                    Quadcells
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks again, found a bad crimp, but took such time making good crimps, but I guess removing the plug a few times must of weaked it. So I am in the process of re- crimping all 6 crimps and will report back when working.
                                    Thanks again.

                                    /quadcells

                                    /quadcells

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      what tool are you using for the crimping? the tool makes all the difference.

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                                      • Quadcellsundefined
                                        Quadcells @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti yes, I know been thru a few PA-20

                                        /quadcells

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                                        • deckingmanundefined
                                          deckingman @Quadcells
                                          last edited by

                                          @Quadcells ....and for info, I use a pair of curved, needle nosed pliers as a crimping tool. Have done ever since I bought my first RepRapPro Mendel printer which came as a kit with made up leads, most of which had bad crimps that I had to repair.
                                          I recently changed from Duet 2 to Duet 3 and had to completely re-wire all 7 axes, 6 extruders (so 13 off 4 wire steppers) plus numerous end stops, heaters, fans, thermistors, lights etc using an assortment of JST and Molex crimps. All done with my trusty curved needle nosed pliers. It's been running for about 5 months, and hundreds of hours and not one single bad connection. 😈

                                          Ian
                                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                          • Quadcellsundefined
                                            Quadcells @deckingman
                                            last edited by

                                            @deckingman this has been my first bad crimp since using this tool. Built my entire Railcore II 300ZL without any problems. but it only takes one.
                                            Thanks all.

                                            /quadcells

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