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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @cdl1701yahoo.com
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      @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

      Looking at the gcode file looks like the z height does not change for this one until layer 3.

      try a different slicer

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      • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
        cdl1701yahoo.com
        last edited by

        I just tried a g-code file that I printed last week and worked fine now it does the same thing. It's almost as if the Duet is ignoring the z height.

        I have Cura installed although I have never used it before, I may give that a try although I don't see why a g-code file that worked last week just fine doesn't work now. I have been using S3D.

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        • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
          cdl1701yahoo.com
          last edited by

          Verified, Cura does the same thing.

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          • jens55undefined
            jens55
            last edited by

            Likely not the issue here since you tried a different slicer but at one point I accidentally changed the dialect for the slicer and things started to go real weird. Some instructions where fine but others were ignored.
            Just mentioning it here for completeness sake.

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            • Danalundefined
              Danal
              last edited by

              Please post the first 50 lines, not counting any initial "; comment" lines, of a file that worked last week.

              Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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              • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                cdl1701yahoo.com @Danal
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                @Danal
                First 50 lines does not give much but here it is.

                G90
                M83
                M106 S0
                M140 S65
                M190 S65
                M104 S0 T0
                M104 S240 T1
                T-1
                G28 ; home XY axes
                M561 ; Clear any bed transform that might be in place
                M375 ; Load height map
                T1
                M116
                G1 X0 Y0 ; Move to Purge extruder
                G1 E10 F500 ;Purge extruder
                ; process 0.2 (PLA)(1)
                ; layer 1, Z = 0.200
                T1
                G1 E-1.0000 F2400
                ; feature skirt
                ; tool H0.200 W0.400
                G1 Z0.250 F1002
                G1 X165.432 Y153.219 F18000
                G1 Z0.200 F1002
                G1 E1.0000 F2400
                G1 X166.378 Y152.243 E0.0452 F2400
                G1 X166.427 Y152.195 E0.0023
                G1 X167.429 Y151.281 E0.0451
                G1 X167.481 Y151.237 E0.0022
                G1 X168.540 Y150.385 E0.0452
                G1 X168.594 Y150.344 E0.0023
                G1 X169.701 Y149.561 E0.0451
                G1 X169.758 Y149.523 E0.0023
                G1 X170.913 Y148.807 E0.0452
                G1 X170.972 Y148.774 E0.0022
                G1 X172.167 Y148.132 E0.0451
                G1 X172.228 Y148.101 E0.0023
                G1 X173.463 Y147.533 E0.0452
                G1 X173.525 Y147.507 E0.0022
                G1 X174.791 Y147.017 E0.0452
                G1 X174.855 Y146.994 E0.0023
                G1 X176.149 Y146.582 E0.0452
                G1 X176.214 Y146.564 E0.0022
                G1 X177.532 Y146.232 E0.0452
                G1 X177.598 Y146.218 E0.0023
                G1 X178.932 Y145.969 E0.0451
                G1 X178.999 Y145.958 E0.0022
                G1 X180.348 Y145.791 E0.0452
                G1 X180.416 Y145.785 E0.0023
                G1 X181.770 Y145.701 E0.0451

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
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                  @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                  Z1600

                  just for testing, can you half the z acceleration, jerk and max speed. 1600 is a lot of steps

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                  • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                    cdl1701yahoo.com @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti
                    Done, no changes.
                    I have another printer that is down right now for a rebuild, I am thinking of taking the Duet Wifi out of that one and putting it in this machine to see if that makes any difference. I assume all I need to do is swap the SD cards?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Do you have anything in your tool change files? Tpre tpost etc.

                      Yes you can swap the SD card for testing. I was going to suggest trying different drivers but if they move normally during other moves just not a print something else must be wrong.

                      Can you send m906 and m913 during a print to check motor currents?

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
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                        @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                        M208 X0:358 Y0:361 Z0:400 ; Set axis min/max
                        M208 U0:200 ; Set axis min/max

                        thats not how M208 works in rrf.

                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 S1 ; set axis minima
                        M208 X358 Y361 Z400 U200 S0 ; set axis maxima

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @cdl1701yahoo.com
                          last edited by

                          @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                          G31 P25 X-3 Y-39.3 Z0.00 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0.69 ; Reset tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P1 X0.99 Y1.2 Z0.8 ; Reset tool 1 axis offsets

                          i think that is causing the problem.

                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0.69 ; Reset tool 0 axis offsets
                          should be
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Reset tool 0 axis offsets

                          and the offset should be defined in G31
                          and the difference for the second one should be defined in G10 P1

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                          • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                            cdl1701yahoo.com @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti
                            You were on to something Veti, I removed the Z Offset for tool 0, no change, so I removed the offset for tool 1 as well now it works fine. 😕 I know there is a way to set tool offsets in the tool change files but not sure how to do that.

                            @Phaedrux
                            Here is what is in my tool change files. The tool 0 files are the same aside from to tool pickup/drop off locations.

                            tfree1.g
                            G53 G0 X350 Y278 F25000 ; Rapid to the approach position with tool-0. (park_x, park_y - offset)
                            G53 G1 Y357 F2000 ; Controlled move to the park position with tool-0. (park_x, park_y)
                            M98 P"/macros/TOOL_CHANGE/Tool_Unlock.g" ; Unlock the tool
                            M400
                            G4 P500
                            G53 G1 Y278 F6000 ; Retract the pin.
                            M106 P6 S0 ; Fan off

                            tpost1.g
                            M106 R2 ; restore print cooling fan speed

                            tpre1.g
                            G0 X350 Y278 F25000 ; Rapid to the approach position without any current tool.
                            G1 Y357 F2000 ; Controlled move to the pickup position with tool-0.
                            M400
                            G4 P500
                            M98 P"/macros/TOOL_CHANGE/Tool_Lock.g" ; Lock the tool
                            M400
                            G4 P500
                            G1 Y278 F6000 ; Retract the entire tool.
                            M98 P"/macros/TOOL_CHANGE/Tool_Lock.g" ; Lock the tool
                            G60 S2 ; Save this position as the reference point from which to later apply new tool offsets.

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @Veti
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                              @Veti said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                              G10 P1 X0.99 Y1.2 Z0.8 ; Reset tool 1 axis offsets

                              what you are configuring there is that the nozzle is 0.8mm above 0.
                              so in order to print it would have to move 0.6 (assuming 0.2 layer height) below zero.
                              yet normaly movement below 0 is forbidden (for good reasons)

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                              • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                                cdl1701yahoo.com @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti
                                Yes, so I have two tools that get picked up by the tool head like what is done in the E3D tool changer. I am using a Bltouch as my Z-probe and it triggers the nozzle is around 0.4 to 0.6 above the bed so I applied those Z offsets in the G10. I may not be doing it right though....

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                                • JamesMundefined
                                  JamesM @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                                  @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                                  M208 X0:358 Y0:361 Z0:400 ; Set axis min/max
                                  M208 U0:200 ; Set axis min/max

                                  thats not how M208 works in rrf.

                                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 U0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                  M208 X358 Y361 Z400 U200 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                  @Veti
                                  It was changed in rrf to allow you to set the min and max in a single line and that is how I do it on my CoreXY printer. This is my m208 line which works perfectly

                                  M208 X-5:340 Y0:334 Z450

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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @JamesM
                                    last edited by

                                    @JamesM said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                                    It was changed in rrf

                                    i missed that change

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti @cdl1701yahoo.com
                                      last edited by

                                      @cdl1701yahoo-com said in Strangest issue yet, Z not moving during print:

                                      I am using a Bltouch as my Z-probe and it triggers the nozzle is around 0.4 to 0.6 above the bed so I applied those Z offsets in the G10. I may not be doing it right though....

                                      do check again, because it explains exactly why it does not move for the first 3 layers.

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                                      • cdl1701yahoo.comundefined
                                        cdl1701yahoo.com @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti
                                        Yep that was the whole issue did two prints last night and all went successfully.
                                        Thanks for the help and pointing me in the right direction!

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