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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Can you pull the SD card entirely, disconnect the bed connector on the Duet, power on, and carefully check if there is VIN across the bed terminals?

      If yes, then that would indicate that the bed heater mosfet has failed on.

      If not, Insert the SD card and check again, if there is now VIN across the terminals, then that would indicate a configuration issue.

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      • gnydickundefined
        gnydick @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @Phaedrux do I just set my meter to low voltage and touch to both terminals directly?

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @gnydick
          last edited by

          @gnydick I'm not familiar with your particular meter, but yes you'd set it to DC voltage in the range that would register 24v accurately. Touch + to + and - to -. Careful not to short anything else.

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          • gnydickundefined
            gnydick @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @Phaedrux yep, 24.1v 😞

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            • gnydickundefined
              gnydick @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @Phaedrux can I use a different connection to trigger the SSR while I wait for the replacement?

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              • A Former User?
                A Former User
                last edited by A Former User

                If its not covered by warranty and you want to use the SSR anyway you might get away with soldering a wire from the gate on the bed FET and run that to the SSR input. (you may have to invert the output if you do)

                Edit: sure, can def use any of the fan outputs instead.

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                • gnydickundefined
                  gnydick @A Former User
                  last edited by

                  @bearer any pointers on how to set that up? Would I just wire two of the pwm pins to the SSR and map the bed heater to that pwm?

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Since the bed heater is being powered via SSR and the SSR input will accept lower voltage than VIN, you could use any other open heater or fan output with a little configuration.

                    If the Duet came with the RailCore kit I'd seek a warranty claim.

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                    • A Former User?
                      A Former User @gnydick
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                      @gnydick said in SSR stuck on???:

                      @bearer any pointers on how to set that up? Would I just wire two of the pwm pins to the SSR and map the bed heater to that pwm?

                      i'd use the "ground" from a fan, that ground is pwm controlled by the duet and you can use any supply voltage, the one on the fan output is convenient though. then unmap the fan if needed and map the heater. I'm sure some of the wizzards can help with the config if needed

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                      • gnydickundefined
                        gnydick @Phaedrux
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                        @Phaedrux I am, but it will take time. I'd like to get everything else tested out while I wait.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @gnydick
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                          You can also use a spare heater output on the Duet or the DueX5.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Here's the directions for using a chamber heater. It's the same principal. Using an alternate pin for controlling an extra heater. The only difference for you is that instead of defining a new heater 3, you'd be altering the configuration for heater 0 (the bed on duet 2)

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_a_chamber_heater

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                            • gnydickundefined
                              gnydick @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux thanks

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                              • jens55undefined
                                jens55
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                                It is highly unlikely that the SSR has failed since it is not stuck in the 'on' position. It is way more likely that there is a wiring error.
                                Are you aware that the positive line will always be high no matter if the heater is on or off?
                                Simply wiring the negative to ground will cause all these issues.
                                Verify the ruting of the two control lines.

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                                • gnydickundefined
                                  gnydick @dc42
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42 do I remap a pin to H0 or do map a different heater to "bed"? I'm kinda lost as to which direction to go.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators @gnydick
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                                    @gnydick said in SSR stuck on???:

                                    @dc42 do I remap a pin to H0 or do map a different heater to "bed"? I'm kinda lost as to which direction to go.

                                    If you are using RRF2 then use a different heater number. Use M140 with an H parameter in config.g to tell the firmware which one.

                                    It's very usual to have a dud bed heater mosfet on a Duet. Is the bed heater LED on the Duet permanently illuminated too?

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                                    • whosrdaddyundefined
                                      whosrdaddy
                                      last edited by whosrdaddy

                                      @gnydick : If I look at your photo, I believe you made a wiring error, you have wires labeled "BED-SSR" connected to the VIN connector and wired VIN to the Bed output connector!!!! Please double check your wiring, diagrams can be found here

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @whosrdaddy
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                                        @whosrdaddy said in SSR stuck on???:

                                        @gnydick : If I look at your photo, I believe you made a wiring error, you have wires labeled "BED-SSR" connected to the VIN connecter an wired VIN to the Bed output connector!!!! Please double check your wiring, diagrams can be found here

                                        Well spotted!

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                                        • whosrdaddyundefined
                                          whosrdaddy
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                                          I stared like 10 minutes at his photo and didn't see the error, thanks to @jens55's remark, it all made sense 🙂

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Completely glossed over that one. Should have looked at the diagram.

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