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    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
      DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
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      @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

      Do I have to change the X and Y minimum and maximum if I want to skip the "end stops" and use sensorless?

      The homing procedure will do that for you. The file is generated by the tool.
      In the homing sequence the axis are allowed to move outside the print aera. (Till they hit the end stop or sensorless homing takes in place)

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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
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        @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

        Do I select not assigned here if i want to use sensorless?

        For me it seams to be right. But I have never set up a system with sensorless homing.
        So you better should read her
        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing

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        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
          DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
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          @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

          Should i change this if I am going to use a fan for part cooling and one fan for the extruder heat sink?

          That is set as standard. FAN0 is for part cooling
          FAN1 is for the hotend. Configured like that the fan will start to rotate when then hotend reaches 45 °C

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
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            @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

            Should the maximum values be changed to 300 - 15mm offset on both X and Y axis? This seems to only measure some of the bed.

            That is depending where you will mount the probe.
            Normaly the probe sits on the side or behind of the hotend.
            So if the aera is set to big it could go beside the bed.
            I would keep the sandard values and adept them when the printer is set up.

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            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
              DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

              @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

              Do i select sensorless on X and Y? What kind of Z-probe is NPN? "Simple modulated IR probe?"

              3ae1d318-d67b-41aa-91e4-d2eab88db8a9-grafik.png
              I think switch will generate the proper value for M558 (should be P5)

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_NPN_output_normally_open_inductive_or_capacitive_sensor

              To invert the signal in config.g, you have to do that by hand..
              For RRF3 the code should look like this
              M558 P5 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000
              (^ inverts the signal)

              For a detailed description how this kind of probe is working, read her
              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/2133/connecting-the-z-probe/6

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              • Quattroundefined
                Quattro
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                I got new problems with the new config.

                1: The bed gets a heat error. It does heat some seconds, and then stops. This did work with the old config.
                It is heating up if i remove "M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the nozzle heater and set PWM limit"
                Should i remove it or change som parameters?
                2020-01-13 21.48.42 (Copy).jpg
                I also get a warning for "over-powered."
                2020-01-13 22.12.37 (Copy).jpg
                2: How to i test the probe? The distance is "0" when i run G31. Even with a object placed under the probe.

                3: Can I use this for sensorless homing? Or does it need a update for firmware v3? It is from my friends HEVO with firmware V2. Should this be placed in the config.g or one of the other files?

                ; Endstop configuration -----------------------------------
                M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
                M915 Y S1.5 R0 F1 ; Higher S = less sens
                M915 X S1.5 R0 F1

                The Z-axis seems to move the right amount now.

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere
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                  Please post the complete config.g

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                  • Quattroundefined
                    Quattro @DIY-O-Sphere
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                    @DIY-O-Sphere

                    New config.g
                    I forgot and was about to post it. Here it is.

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                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                      DIY-O-Sphere
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                      Your config is for RRF3

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                      • Quattroundefined
                        Quattro @DIY-O-Sphere
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                        @DIY-O-Sphere
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                        Isn't that right?

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                        • Quattroundefined
                          Quattro
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                          The config for the probe says "P5 (from RepRapFirmware 1.14) selects a switch by default (normally closed) for bed probing between the In and Gnd pins of the Z-probe connector (Duet 0.8.5 and Duet 2 WiFi)."
                          But I have it the + and GND connected to a fan output and the "Z Probe in".

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                          • blt3dpundefined
                            blt3dp
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                            For the bed.

                            Looks to me like your bed heater needs to be tuned.

                            M303 H0 P1.0 Swhatever temperature you usually print
                            

                            Then take the values it returns and put it in the M307 in your config.g as the A, C, and D parameters.

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere
                              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                              Try this for the probe
                              ; Z-Probe
                              M558 P5 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds

                              Why have you uncommented that ?
                              ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00
                              Delete the ;

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                              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                DIY-O-Sphere
                                last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                100 kohm NTC3950 thermistor

                                Check what thermistor is really used for the bed. I think it's not the correct one.

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                                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                  DIY-O-Sphere @Quattro
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                                  @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:
                                  285c50bc-31f4-4138-9de2-c73f91b94c58-grafik.png

                                  The sensor is connected like this, but the power goes to the 5V ext/fan output.

                                  I'm not shure where you have puged power of the probe.
                                  I would suggest to plug it in the +5V for PanelDue

                                  7f303179-c040-4e84-b852-c729b0e0f319-grafik.png

                                  And also check if the diode is in correct direction.

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                                  • Quattroundefined
                                    Quattro @blt3dp
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                                    @blt3dp said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                    For the bed.

                                    Looks to me like your bed heater needs to be tuned.

                                    M303 H0 P1.0 Swhatever temperature you usually print
                                    

                                    Then take the values it returns and put it in the M307 in your config.g as the A, C, and D parameters.

                                    Heater 0 model: gain 129.7, time constant 343.8, dead time 1.0, max PWM 1.00, calibration voltage 23.7, mode PID
                                    Computed PID parameters for setpoint change: P463.5, I24.749, D331.1
                                    Computed PID parameters for load change: P463.5, I93.008, D331.1

                                    Like this? M307 H0 A129.7 C343.8 D1.0 V23.7 B0

                                    @DIY-O-Sphere said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                    Try this for the probe
                                    ; Z-Probe
                                    M558 P5 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds

                                    Why have you uncommented that ?
                                    ;M307 H0 B0 S1.00
                                    Delete the ;

                                    Because the bed heating did not work with this command.

                                    2020-01-13 23.10.07 (Copy).jpg
                                    (Black cable) Signal connected to "Z PROBE IN"
                                    2020-01-13 23.10.45 (Copy).jpg
                                    (Brown and blue) Power connected to fan output (always on fan, measured 4.86V)
                                    The probe does read "Current reading 1000, threshold 500, trigger height 4.000, offsets X21.0 Y0.0" with G31 now.

                                    HTB1D7podx1YBuNjy1zcq6zNcXXaK.jpg
                                    It's a cheap Chinese probe, so it might be crap, but I expect it to work.

                                    @DIY-O-Sphere said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                    @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                    100 kohm NTC3950 thermistor

                                    Check what thermistor is used for the bed. I think it's not the correct one.

                                    The bed is working after the PID adjustment.

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                                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                      DIY-O-Sphere
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                                      @Quattro
                                      So I think the part where I could support you is working.

                                      As mentioned I have never set up sensorless homing.
                                      But I have realized that the stall detection M915 is missing in config.g
                                      I think you have found that?
                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing

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                                      • Quattroundefined
                                        Quattro
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                                        Good and bad news. I got the probe to work. It is a 6-36V probe, not 5V as advertised. Its working on 24V. Should the non triggered value be "0" and the triggered value "1000"? The probe does not read thru the glass and down to the alu bed. Do i need to change to a BL touch? Is it reliable to manually adjust the springs on the bed and run without a Z-probe?

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                                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                          DIY-O-Sphere
                                          last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                          @Quattro said in Noob building a HEVO in need of help.:

                                          Should the non triggered value be "0" and the triggered value "1000"?

                                          Detail of the guide:
                                          "HIGH during probing, LOW at other times"
                                          I would expect that is correct.
                                          Have you tried to remove the glass and maybe stick some tap on the alu plate?

                                          Edit:
                                          I'm a satisfied BlTouch user 👍

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                                          • Quattroundefined
                                            Quattro
                                            last edited by Quattro

                                            I have attached the belt to the X Y assembly and I am trying to home the X-axis. I had to change the homex.g and congig.g according to https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing
                                            But I can't figure out why the motor keep "skipping" for so long. After some time it is detecting stall and runs the next g-code. I did try a few S-values. I get G28 X Error: Homing failed.

                                            Does anyone have a suggestion?

                                            homex.g
                                            config.g

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